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"Cop Shopping" is a gross term for them not doing their job. They never prevent or protect anything.
Agreed, support 2A and depend upon yourself.
The article is about things that happened in Australia 🙄
Exactly, I bet her loved ones wished she had the right tools to defend herself. Lord knows the police won’t.
Eew keep your gross American opinions to yourself.
No, the 1A means I can share it as much as I want. Freedom of Speech is awesome!
The irony of you tooting about 1A, celebrating your “right” to free speech, based on your ability to post something in a forum where 1A doesn’t apply.
It’s delicious.
And we have the freedom to call you out on your American bullshit (that doesn't even work in the US).
You make it sound like thats unique to the US and a foreign concept to the rest of the world.
Freedom of speech doesn't mean you won't face consequences of what you say.
The first amendment applies only to government action on your speech. It has nothing to do with your speech on a private website and it doesn't apply outside of the US (even if you'd like to think the US owns the world).
The supposed tool to defend herself with would have been used to kill her even sooner.
If you need a gun in order to feel safe in your country, you live in a shithole.
Yeah! Because domestic abuse is totally not a thing in america. Oh wait.
And Australians have had massive incursions on their gun rights since 2020.
@GhostedIC
That's because we don't see using a gun as a right, just like we don’t see driving a car as a right. They're both activities that are priviledges earned through training and licensing.
@frostysauce
And as a result the number of school shootings is much, much lower than in the US.
If only you supported education, more specifically geography, as much as you pretend to support the Constitution.
No I fully support the constitution and wish the amendments were universal human rights, not just American rights.
A populace with the ability to kill anyone with the press of a button isn't free or safe - it's fearful, which is a dangerous thing to be when you have a gun.
Gestures lazily at gun deaths per capita compared to the rest of the developed world.
There's also the 13th - Slavery is fine so long as we criminalise you. Why the fuck would you want this, exactly?
The deification of the founding fathers - a bunch of slave owners and the like is deeply weird. They had some good ideas... and some atrocious ones.
So you want more deaths in the world?
Well I don't.
Any country where you need a gun in order to feel safe is a shithole.
No thanks. You can keep your constitution. Ours isn't perfect either, but I prefer it to yours.
Fuck off. Australia doesn't want or need your freedum bullshit.
Those of you who automatically dismiss self-defense out of hand: what is your method of self-defense, and why wasn't it used in 1930s Germany?
She did.
Where the bald eagle swoops in and drops a loaded gun into her hands, yah.
Something something, hammer and nail
I love the duality of Lemmy users:
“Ohhh nooos we can’t depend upon the police!”
“Ohh nooos how dare someone suggest taking agency for their own safety ! 2A is baddd mmmkay!”
I think the overall sentiment is removing violence as an option for everyone, cops, citizens, and criminals alike
Guns as a thing in this world inherently create death and loss as a result of their existence, not in spite of it
Bark on about how your rights are being taken, maybe when you find your oppressor we can throw a gun in the mix and see who comes out victorious. Waah waah, the powers are holding me down. Let's go get the state to allow more unrestricted access to fire arms, as that's everyone's solution to everything.
So he could have shot her?
Let's just set up a standoff where the husband, wife and one police officer all hold guns to each other. It'll all sort itself out when the dust settles like the wild west. See I can come up with stupid politically motivated solutions too. Stupid, to say a gun will "fix" a situation involving domestic abuse. You hear that 2A'ers, THAT'S STUPID!
You did the ol’Reddit switcharoo. I gotta say it takes a special kind of animal to do that on a thread dealing with a domestic abuse victim.
Wasn't there some sort of ruling a while back that said the police are under no obligation to serve and protect, which is why that's no longer on their cars and stuff?
Edit: Found it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/justices-rule-police-do-not-have-a-constitutional-duty-to-protect.html
Edit 2: My bad, the article is for Australia so this doesn't apply. I'm so used to seeing this sort of thing is the US news.
The usa there have bern many rurlings stating it is legal for cops to do nothing.
Uvalde school shooting is one example.