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[-] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 60 points 1 year ago

But then you aren't forced to buy a new phone every few years?

[-] solrize@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

What? No just a new battery. That's the point.

[-] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's the point of what this guy is saying.

But the point of making batteries not easily removable (besides the waterproofing factor) is that when a repair shop charges them $150 to do it, lots of people will justify putting that money towards a new phone instead.

As someone who works on phones as a hobby, I've seen that the percentage of people who will either hire someone to do it or buy a different phone is near 100. It's absolutely an intentional planned obsolescence.

[-] JonEFive@midwest.social 11 points 1 year ago

Waterproofing is a lame excuse that I won't accept from these manufacturers. It may be not as easy as just permanently gluing the thing together, but it's definitely possible to have a sealed battery compartment.

[-] auzas_1337@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago

For example cameras have been weatherproof for decades now. And you can both change the batteries and plug a bunch of stuff in them no problem.

[-] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

They were being sarcastic and quoting something a phone manufacturer would say.

[-] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

No one is forced. Especially with fast charging.

[-] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 31 points 1 year ago

Sure, if my battery lasts literally 30min, I'm totally not forced to buy a new phone. I'll just fast charge my way through the world.

[-] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago
[-] SqueakyBeaver 13 points 1 year ago

I literally know someone with this type of issue. Battery goes from like 70 to 20 in maybe 20 minutes

Their phone isn't even that old

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

I know lemmy hates Apple but HOW?!

My five year old iPhone lasts all day, and is as fast as what I bought it?!

That battery has to be bad. I loved the shit out of my HTC Dream but that only went from 30% to 0 when the battery was BUSTIN

[-] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

It was probably abused. I've never had a phone get that bad and I really do not think that is some widespread thing. Otherwise you'd see a lot of three year old EVs with a 20 mile range.

[-] SqueakyBeaver 1 points 1 year ago

not entirely sure tbh Just know their battery is shit at this point

[-] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Toward the end of my pixel 5's life, the battery in it lasted about 10 minutes. The phone itself was 3 years old. It happens.

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago

How?! I’m currently on a five year old phone that lasts all day with its original battery?!

[-] XTL@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Abuse or defects or environment. I've, for example, seen one phone which was constantly woken up (technical term in case it sounds odd) because of some event in the wireless signal and that made it use up the battery in a ridiculously short time. It was a combination of the way a network was set up, bad signal quality, and a firmware quirk. Clearly a defect, but hard to say whose. Forcing it to use some mode in the radio via settings circumvented that.

[-] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I get the feeling it has to do with how wireless charging works. On a wire, a phone can regulate how quickly it takes charge or whether it does at all. I don't think phones are capable of that with wireless charging, which is exclusively how I charged my pixel 5 at night.

So it would get to 100% and stay there for several hours every single night. I didn't realize it was bad at the time.

It could always just be that I was unlucky and got a defective battery to begin with. No way to know for sure.

[-] romp_2_door@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The money is in the software services nowadays anyway. Subscription AI bullshit, cloud n stuff.

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