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[-] Sami_Uso@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Cook at home, we don't want you there anyways.

**Gosh I didn't realize Lemmy was so full of broke assholes hell bent on taking money out of service employees pockets. Very working class of you guys!

[-] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 64 points 11 months ago

LMFAO. I love people like you... If you demand everyone stay home... You know what will happen? You won't have customers in the restaurant. Which leads to less tables, which leads to less wait staff needed. You will simply lose your job. So not only do you not get tips... but you won't even get your minimum wages.

Congrats you're ruining it yourself!

[-] Sami_Uso@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

Bro I work 50 hours a week. If my place closes, another one will open. I've worked at at least 15 different places since I've been 18. We hate you and resent you for walking in the door, regardless of tipping.

Literally, just stay home. If you can't afford to tip, or don't want to, just stay home.

[-] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 33 points 11 months ago

We hate you and resent you for walking in the door, regardless of tipping.

This is the reason you've worked at 15 difference places. You're shit at your job and keep getting fired. It's not anyone's fault except your own that you hate the world. You should hate your boss for paying you like shit... But instead you're peddling the tip-mentality here so that your wages go up much higher than any reasonable job with your skillset should pay. But right! You hate "us", the ones that keep your ass afloat and able to pay rent.

If my place closes

It's not yours.

Literally, just stay home. If you can’t afford to tip, or don’t want to, just stay home.

Very classist thing to say, no? If someone is poor or simply down for the week and just needs to get some food, fuck them right? They're not allowed to get food from "your" establishment cause they can't afford your 50% tip ransom!

Bro I work 50 hours a week

Join the club. I done 168 hours per week... Where's my tip for deploying to Afghanistan? Even separated from the military at this point there's weeks I put in 60-80 hours at the expense of my family. I don't demand a tip. Raw hours means nothing. Shit you're reading my content. You can tip me at bc1qtg5zxzuact47zvsaguns97swn4w3u8qatchgzl for simply talking to me.

[-] Sami_Uso@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Thank you for your service.

Now could you please just tip your waitress for your chicken tendies next time you're out? I mean it's what, $6?

[-] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 12 points 11 months ago

I'm sorry you've commented on my comment. I demand a tip. Otherwise I'll spin up lemmy instances that will troll your account and downvote everything you post (spit in your food, make you wait for your food, serve your food cold, make whatever analogy you want here).

See how absurd this premise is? Get mad at your boss, not me. I didn't hire you.

[-] Sami_Uso@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

I'm not defending tipping. It's unnecessary and overcomplicated. I'm defending the wait staff that didn't make the rules but have to rely on them to live.

You can't hate it all you want, but until we're ready to actually change it at a core level, the bill the waitress hands you shouldn't be where you try to make your point.

[-] Rediphile@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago

You are literally defending tipping and saying people should tip. Get a grip.

[-] Sami_Uso@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Did a waitress laugh at you when you asked for her phone number or something? You seem extra worked up about this.

[-] SkippingRelax@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

So i see a handful of players here, the customers, the servers, the employer and maybe politicians. Who do you think should wake up one morning and decide not good enough, the system needs to change and I am going to do something about it?

[-] Sami_Uso@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Probably one of the people in positions of authority who are paid to make such decisions. I gotta work a morning shift today, should I ask them if today is the day?

[-] SkippingRelax@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Got bad news for you

[-] Rediphile@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Bro at least send him like ten bucks or something. Buddy went to fucking Afghanistan. I bet you've gotten bigger tips for bringing some lukewarm plates of food you didn't even make to a table 32ft away. And I'm sure you were appreciative of those customers and felt they were doing the right thing, correct?

So, here's your chance, do the right thing! Send the $10 to the address they provided. If you do and they post confirmation, I'll legit tip 100% on the next meal I go out for.

[-] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 3 points 11 months ago

Hey at least it's transparent since anyone can check the wallet address. So you don't need to wait for me to post a confirmation (https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/addresses/btc/bc1qtg5zxzuact47zvsaguns97swn4w3u8qatchgzl). More transparency than we're getting in this discussion from "career wait staff" who likely get way more than minimum wages and still get tied up in knots that people don't pay enough in tips (rather than demanding better pay from their bosses). I wonder if these people would be okay making their tips publicly known at the time that people leave the tip... eg, on the check it tells you how much tips your server collected for the night so far and on average for a given pay period). I mean, if it's being left to me to pay someone's wages, I should have a right to know how much they've collected right?

But seriously. I don't need the money. I do well enough for myself and have no-one but myself to blame if I don't take home enough money for my family in a given pay period. I generated the address to prove a silly point.

[-] Rediphile@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago

I'm not saying you need the money, just that he should give it to you as he would expect you to do for him if the situation was the other way around.

He won't though. Leeches like that only take from others.

[-] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 2 points 11 months ago

Yeah I suspected that was your intent. But can't always attribute tone to text. I'm just trying to prove the point and I think you get it spot on. Demanding tips from or hating/resenting your customers because they choose not to tip you is just nasty behavior when they should ultimately be mad at the person who hires/pays them. This behavior that this lemmite espouse here in the attempt to justify tipping is exactly why I don't like tipping at all.

The military thing is in the same vein, everyone always claims that the military members don't get enough for what they do... So when you put tipping in that context to... Where's mine? That logic fails outright... and everyone knows it. So why keep it floating for wait staff?

[-] Catoblepas 1 points 11 months ago

Leeches like that only take from others.

Saying this while demanding a sub-minimum wage worker send money to someone who presumably has permanent access to healthcare due to military service (and also admits they are paid well) is peak internet.

[-] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 1 points 11 months ago

who presumably has permanent access to healthcare due to military service

This would only be true if I hold 100% disability. For any other percentage I could only use VA healthcare for service related disabilities. And this all assumes I hold a disability at all.

I'm well paid, because I worked hard to start my company and gain the contracts I have.

[-] Catoblepas 1 points 11 months ago

Interesting, the rules must be different depending on circumstance because my grandpa had zero issues getting VA care with no disability. This was post WWII though so it wouldn’t surprise me if they stopped giving out healthcare once the US stopped winning wars.

Regardless of your healthcare status, demanding a minimum wage worker give you a tip for your service is absolutely deranged. Especially when the food service worker is actually providing a useful service and not just enforcing imperialism.

[-] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 2 points 11 months ago

So then you're talking on topics that you have no information about... and expect anyone to take you seriously?

Demanding tips is deranged from the get go.

[-] Catoblepas 2 points 11 months ago

Here’s my for you tip: don’t behave towards food service workers in a way that will get your food spat in.

Or do, I’m not a cop.

[-] Rediphile@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago

Your employers sure love us though, since they invite us in with open arms every single time. And we always, always, pay them then the full price they asked for. We have a great relationship in which we both benefit. Their business adds value to the community and I want to support them, and so I do. And they thank me for it. And I get a delicious cheeseburger.

So no, I'm not staying home and you can't do a fucking thing about it. If I happen to walk into your place of work, you will serve me with a smile on your face the entire time too. It's pretty fucked up and I can't understand why you do it to yourself. I did for a few years and am thankful everyday I left for greener pastures. You could too.

[-] jj4211@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

To be fair to them, losing the $2 an hour of their actual base pay is hardly a threat. For them, the customers that don't tip are nothing but extra work that they won't get paid for. So yeah, they'd probably rather be unemployed than put up with a busy restaurant for next to no pay.

The tipping situation is busted and I would love to see a more normal compensation picture for the restaurant industry as literally every other industry. However as things are now, the restaurant workers are just downright boned if no tips, and they have essentially nothing to work for if there are no tips.

[-] PatMustard@feddit.uk 11 points 11 months ago

taking money out of service employees pockets

Doesn't your employer pay your wage?

[-] Sami_Uso@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Alot of states in the US have like the opposite of pro rated minimum wage where they actually are paid less than minimum wage because they earn tips.

So like a waitress earns $2.75/hour as opposed to $10/hour because she might make that up in tips within the hour. That's the thought anyways.

[-] PatMustard@feddit.uk 3 points 11 months ago

So what happens if they don't make any tips? Surely they still need to make the legal minimum wage?

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