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[-] Daxtron2@startrek.website 6 points 9 months ago

Wow another repost of incorrectly prompting an LLM to produce garbage output. What great content!

[-] Umbrias@beehaw.org 10 points 9 months ago

This is genuinely great content for demonstrating that ai search engines and chat bots are not in a place where you can trust them implicitly, though many do

[-] Daxtron2@startrek.website 1 points 9 months ago

Which is exactly why every LLM explicitly says this before you start.

[-] Umbrias@beehaw.org 12 points 9 months ago

"Why, we aren't at fault people are using the tool we are selling for the thing we marketed it for, we put a disclaimer!"

[-] Daxtron2@startrek.website 1 points 9 months ago

You've seen marketing for the big LLMs that's marketing them as search engines?

[-] Umbrias@beehaw.org 3 points 9 months ago
[-] Daxtron2@startrek.website 1 points 9 months ago

Bing w/ LLM summarization of results is not an LLM being used as a search engine

[-] Umbrias@beehaw.org 3 points 9 months ago
[-] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 1 points 9 months ago

Bing literally has a copilot frame pop up every time you search with it that tries to answer your question

[-] Daxtron2@startrek.website 1 points 9 months ago

Again, LLM summarization of search results is not using an LLM as a search engine

[-] fidodo@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

They didn't ask it to produce incorrect output, the prompts are not leading it to an incorrect answer. It does highlight an important limitation of LLMs which is that it doesn't think, it just produces words off of probability.

However it's wrong to think that just because it's limited that it's useless. It's important to understand the flaws so we can make them less common through how we use the tool.

For example, you can ask it to think everything through step by step. By producing a more detailed context window for itself it can reduce mistakes. In this case it could write out the letters with the count numbered and that would give it enough context to properly answer the question since it would have the numbers and letters together giving it more context. You could even tell it to write programs to assist itself and have it generate a letter counting program to count it accurately and produce the correct answer.

People can point out flaws in the technology all they want but smarter people are going to see the potential and figure out how to work around the flaws.

[-] Daxtron2@startrek.website 2 points 9 months ago

Yeah which is why I get so aggravated when someone says that prompt engineering is pointless or not a real skill. It's a rapidly evolving discipline with lots of active research.

[-] petrol_sniff_king 1 points 9 months ago

If all of your time is spent correcting the answers you know you want it to give you, what use it to you exactly?

Like, I'll take your word for it: you can trick it into giving more correct answers.

You would only do this if you already know the correct answers.

I mean, you can use it for rubber-ducking, I suppose. I don't know if that's revolutionary, but I guess it's not useless.

[-] fidodo@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I pointed out general strategies to make it more accurate without supervision. Getting LLMs to be reliable enough to use without supervision will be a matter of adding multiple layers of safe guards.

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