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[-] danekrae@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Both Israel and the US have representative democracies. Views of the government are the views of the people.

[-] magnetosphere@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago

That would be true if we didn’t have an electoral college. Hillary Clinton won the popular vote.

[-] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago

Yikes why would defend someone who sung the praises of noted War Criminal Henry Kissinger?

[-] magnetosphere@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The alternative was worse. Most Presidential elections aren’t about picking the candidate you want - they boil down to who you dislike less.

Besides, I wasn’t “defending” anyone; I was simply pointing out a fact.

[-] danekrae@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The hours everybody spends in supermarkets, picking out the things they don't want to buy, so they're only left with what they want... But the alternative is worse...

[-] chillhelm@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

They both approximate perfect representation close enough. If the difference between one government or the other comes down to variations that are basically explained by the weather being good or bad on voting day, you can't really claim that the government isn't representative.

Just because it didn't represent YOUR opinion, it doesn't make it less representative. A truly representative government will make decisions that align with 10% of the population 10% of the time. So if 10% of the population want to bomb Canada a perfectly representative government will make it happen every 40 years or so.

[-] DessertStorms@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Jfc what an out of touch and wilfully ignorant comment.. 🤦‍♀️

https://web.archive.org/web/20230803021951/https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/08/22/american-democracy-was-never-designed-to-be-democratic

Never mind that Netanyahu has spent the past decade or so actively and successfully eroding whatever pretence of democracy existed in Israel before..

But with just some VERY MINOR tweaks to the system, the "views of the people" would be very different. In the US, the system is OPENLY engineered to preserve existing power structures, in ways that have accumulated over the decades (Jerrymandering, Electoral College and First Past The Post all add up...)

[-] danekrae@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

And everybody over there is beginning to work together and rise up against it...

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