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Magic mushrooms ‘can improve sex lives in struggling marriages’
(www.telegraph.co.uk)
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If you can't fix your marriage normally, just drink/take drugs so you're too smashed to worry about whether you actually like your partner!
Solid advice.
In related news, if you're unfulfilled in your current relationship, just cheat/spend time with others to fill the gaps! Problem solved.
Don't you think this is an unfair way of framing this? There are plenty of people who may value their relationship who this could help. It's no different than taking anti-depressants or other meds that can help improve their quality of life.
There's a lot of potential benefits to psychedelics. But a single study of 300 people showing one effect is hardly cause for celebration.
There is a massive difference in using well studied and understood ways to help couples work through issues VS. Taking something poorly understood that we have close to zero understanding of the long term impact for.
So I'm pretty comfortable saying this is bullshit until proven otherwise, and I think that's the healthiest way to do it.
Think of it another way - there's far more research and drugs that are touted as curing cancer that go nowhere than there is support for this. It's a sexy headline but pretty useless at end of day.
Maybe I'm just cynical, but I always read headlines in non-academic news sites like this as "some research suggests..."
There's obviously nothing entirely conclusive, but it looks promising at least.
tell me you've never taken psychedelics without telling me
Lol. If your relationship has improved significantly becsuse you've taken some short term acting drugs then it either wasn't a problem in the first place or you're lying to yourself.
Are people here not in relationships? You must have intense fantasies to think long term issues can be solved by short term solutions.
That's the thing, psychedelics may be short term acting drugs but the experiences they allow can have lasting, profound effects on our perception of the world. You can't make generalization on all drugs, they're all so different, that's nonsensical. I highly recommends you read "How to Change Your Mind" by Michael Pollan, that's a great introduction to the subject.
https://michaelpollan.com/books/how-to-change-your-mind/
I don't disagree they can have great effects, but the research is way too limited on it.
Again, given the actual issue - there are far better researched and understood ways of dealing with it than just taking some drugs and hoping for the best of it.
And yes, myself and friends have taken psychedelics. I recall needing to stop my friend from cutting his penis off as he was hallucinating it was attacking him. Great solid experience.
I'm sure there's safe dosages and if done under supervision it's fine, but we're nowhere near that at the moment and you're just as likely to have a bad experience as anything profound and good imo.
I am having a hard time believing your story. What drugs did you take? How much? What’s wrong with your friend in general?
Well set and settings is everything with psychedelics. There is a huge difference between a trip with friends at a party, an environment that can feel very hostile while triping, and a trip by yourself in a safe, calm and comfortable place which will ends up much more instrospective. You rarely get profound, lasting, altering experiences with the former.
This is not trying to deny the usefulness of other ways to deal with it, that just one more possible tool.
This is exactly the point. This and other studies like it are validating these routes to healing and this guy’s still drinking the Nancy Reagan DARE Kool-Aid. If there’s any truth to his story, then he’s digging his heels in about one piece of anecdotal evidence while ironically suggesting that a study of 300 is too small of a sample size to be relevant.
Acid will not solve your relationship problems but it will make you more vulnerable with each other and it will force you to confront any feelings you've been hiding from them or yourself. It's the extra kick in the ass you sometimes need to get things rolling
Exactly. I’ve had some of my most emotionally vulnerable conversations with my wife during and post trip. It helps you look at your life in a different lenses and really question your current ego and perceptions.
Sometimes a bandage helps to stop the bleeding.
Sometimes bandages are left on too long and wounds fester.
Bandages can be useful sometimes, but care must still be taken.
The anecdote sort of works, but in my version, you're putting a bandage on a broken bone. I mean, sure, maybe it'll help but there's better ways of doing it based on what we know.
Stay in school kids! If you're lucky, you'll be too sheltered to be as impotently enraged as this poor bastard.
Enraged? Because I'm suggesting long term relationship issues are extremely unlikely to be solved by short term solutions?
Yes clearly I'm the crazy one here. Do you honestly believe that serious relationship issues can be solved by a short term acting drug? I'm sure there's a small chance, but it's ridiculous to think it'd work for more than a minority.
But feel free to throw some baseless insults instead of providing an actual counter argument! I get it though, if you can't make an argument, easiest to just attack the person. 😊
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Keep proving my point lol. It's a shame on a science board that people aren't willing to engage in discussion but just pointless one word responses or personal attacks.
So close to self-awareness and you still miss? Oof.
This makes no sense/is not relevant to my comment at all...
But sure, if you can't make an argument against it feel free to use irrelevant anecdotes. But what can you expect from a person who probably doesn't play basketball.
Now define insufferable
People who make comments that add little to no value to the discussion such as yours.