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Parisians vote in favour of tripling parking costs for SUVs
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no. not really.
Professionals who need something with storage space for work use vans.
People who need to also transport a wheelchair will use a different car, that is not terribly to get in and out of.
SUVs have 0 reasons to exist, especially outside the US
Seems like it applies to vans as well
fair enough. But at that point it's basically another business expense.
SUVs don't really do much in the area of "hauling stuff around". They are really really bad at it, if you compare it to normal transporters
I'm not really understanding, what makes the US different in this regard?
Have you been to Europe? Have you walked the streets of Paris? The US was built with enough space being everywhere. American roads are wider, cities are mostly built like square-grids of roads built in a time when cats existed whereas European cities emerged in the middle ages. They're tightly packed with little extra space. Sometimes (very rarely) here there are old Cadillacs that can be rented for weddings. Seeing one of these cars on the street is an unreal experience. They're just so huge. They don't fit on the streets here - and those are cars from the 60s or 70s. Everything seems tiny compared to them. From a European perspective it's really stupid to build such large vehicles as driving and parking it is much more complicated when everything is build for small cars. Now that SUVs are becoming popular here too it's just a really annoying. Less parking space per vehicle etc. On cities like Paris - one of the tightest city on Europe this is just annoying. And i haven't even written about fuel consumption. Paris has had huge problems with smog in recent years.
And we're paying for that, too.
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I haven't been to Western Europe but I do live in Singapore with roads that I would say are quite narrow and SUVs aren't that rare here either. So I can't say I really understand entirely but I think I do get what you mean.
The US is built more for SUVs than places outside it, so they make a little bit more sense than in places like Paris.
But only a little bit more sense. They're still obnoxious and far too big in the US.
True, lots of places (but I suppose maybe not everywhere) have really wide roads with tons of lanes so it's easy to drive around with SUV's, but this is generally not true in Europe where, even in large cities, often roads/lanes are narrower, making SUV's unwieldy for those driving around them.
Then there's the pollution aspect which I can't address, but I imagine SUV's pollute more on average than other cars (and probably Europe is currently being a bit more stingy on allowing this)
the onyl reason they exist in the US is because a regulations loophole.
The EU doesn't have that loophole, so SUVs don't even have that reason to exist. Which you can see, as SUVs are super rare in the EU, while they top all car sales ranks in the US in the last couple years
SUVs are not super rare in the EU (unfortunately). They are pretty common in cities and cause a lot of accidents.
SUVs and crossovers are most popular cars in Europe.
Here’s a French source, coincidentally: https://www.lemonde.fr/en/economy/article/2023/09/14/suvs-now-dominate-european-car-market_6135326_19.html
Til that model y is a suv.
You didn't notice until now?
Just looks like a slightly raised sedan to me. Shrug
I don't think you are right on SUVs not being a thing here. What is the legal loophole in the US about?
This covers the whole thing in detail, but there are some exceptions to light trucks in the Us that also applies to SUVs for some reason
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A car most likely wouldn't work for many wheelchair users who drive because they essentially need something they can just get them and their chair lifted directly into, lock their wheels down and start driving. But that doesn't require an SUV. A van would work too. That's what a friend of mine in high school drove.