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This is like "is dating women gay?"
"Are oppressive laws passed by Republicans the Democrats fault?"
When they have the power to change it and don't?
Absolutely.
When have the Democrats had a 2/3 majority necessary to bring a Constitutional Amendment to vote?
Because that's the only legal path to over riding the Supreme Court's ruling.
Under Obama, and no, that's not their only path.
They could have ended the filibuster forever any time they had a simple majority.
...but they don't have the power to change it? Mainly because people keep voting for Republicans come rain or shine, vote for Democrats when the syzzergy of planets is correct and the tea leaves are vibing and they didn't see a green car on voting day, and vote for a 3rd party literally never even if it would kill them not to.
And I say this as someone who desperately wishes the 3rd party option was half as good as the UK's options.
You say this as someone who doesn't care about outcomes, because all you've seen for the last 40 years is gradual, but inevitable conservative outcomes, and you're going to pretend voting Democrat changes that anyway.
So what do you propose? Let the Republicans be in charge?
Really, really listen to what you're saying.
I propose we all vote for a third party instead.
I'm reading what you are saying. What you said is because Democrats have never the had power to make the changes you want, you will put Republicans in charge.
No, because I'm not a partisan who votes Republican or Democrat.
For me, voting records matter. That's why I vote third party. You're the one voting for party no matter what they do.
Democrats never had the power to do what you wanted them to do. So you enable Republicans to do worse.
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Democrats had the power and chose not to wield it. They love the Jim Crow Filibuster too much.
So you want the Republicans to be in charge.
If you want any viable third party, you need to be pushing for election reform at the state/local level. I'd prefer the Star system, but even ranked choice would be better than FPTP. The system was designed to be difficult to change at the federal level, but easy to change at the local level.
No. In fact, I've said otherwise several times in this thread.
Further, by voting for do-nothing Democrats, you're doing far more to help Republicans than I am.
This is the voting map of the USA.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:2020_United_States_presidential_election_results_map_by_county.svg
Voting is by county at the local level and by state at the national. It doesn't matter that it isn't democratic. It is the law as it exists. THE POPULATION DOES NOT MATTER.
Claiming Democrats are do nothing is like blaming Blacks for being a minority.
Uh huh...
Do you have any realistic suggestions?