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[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 110 points 9 months ago

"Thank you, sir, I understand. Unfortunately, this is a US road and as a visiting alien, you are not allowed to operate your vehicle on it."

[-] Signtist@lemm.ee 49 points 9 months ago

The issue is that they don't believe the US government is legitimate. From what I've gathered, they think that the real US is theirs by right, and that the entity that we know of as the government is essentially a parasitic corporation that has convinced everyone it's the real governing body so that we fund it with our taxes. Though, even if you had a logical explanation within the confines of their worldview as to why they can't drive without a license, they'd still pretend they had some excuse not to listen to it.

[-] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 25 points 9 months ago
  1. US govt not real

  2. Convince people to pay taxes to fake government

  3. Fake govt has the ability to enforce laws

  4. Therefore becomes actual govt

  5. 🤔

  6. Real govt

[-] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago

All governments are invalid monopolies on violence.

But they're still a monopoly on violence. Thinking magic words will save you is insanity.

[-] thecrotch@sh.itjust.works 12 points 9 months ago

the entity that we know of as the government is essentially a parasitic corporation

So they're not entirely wrong

[-] Signtist@lemm.ee 23 points 9 months ago

Correct, but the difference is that it's legitimate AND parasitic. So we can't just ignore it like they want to.

[-] thecrotch@sh.itjust.works 13 points 9 months ago

Doesn't even matter if it's legitimate. If you ignore them, they can and will fuck you up. That matters a lot.

[-] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 5 points 9 months ago

Some define government just means an entity with an effective monopoly on violence in a region. So if they can and will fuck you up, then they're a legitimate government. Everything else is just pretenses to maintain/justify that monopoly by that definition.

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

The sovereignty is enforced by fuckton of fighter jets, warships, and nukes! Do you feel lucky, punk?

[-] bitwaba@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago
[-] nieceandtows@programming.dev 9 points 9 months ago

Okay, but they're still driving on the property of that parasitic corporation. Since they didn't contribute any taxes towards building it, they don't have any rights on that road.

[-] Signtist@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago

Well they believe it's parasitic in that the US somehow funds the roads, while the parasitic government company doesn't. It's not true, but they don't believe the government does literally anything but take the people's money.

[-] bitwaba@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

Where does the legitimate government get the money to build roads if the illegitimate government is intercepting all of it from the god fearing citizens that have been paying out of their pocket for decades?

[-] Signtist@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago

If it made sense it wouldn't be a conspiracy theory. All it takes is one guy claiming some private good-guy billionaire has been funding the real US this whole time and they'd eat it up, throwing it at anyone who doubts them as if it's some undeniable fact.

[-] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

These guys read the SCP archives and see it as actual history, don't they?

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