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[-] LaLiLuLeLo@kbin.social 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

This is only going to increase as men watch their quality of life continue to degrade, while they get ignored at best and blamed for everything at worse. Many men can barely afford to live, let alone even think of the joys of previous generations such as home ownership, having a family, or travelling.

Meanwhile the news is full of victory after victory for women, so of course they’re going to support the status quo more.

Conservatism grows when people are struggling.

[-] napoleonsdumbcousin@feddit.de 20 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Many men can barely afford to live, let alone even think of the joys of previous generations such as home ownership, having a family, or travelling.

Ahh yes, because houses are cheaper for women, obviously. /s

This has nothing to do with the person being a man or woman.

Meanwhile the news is full of victory after victory for women, so of course they’re going to support the status quo more.

That "victory after victory" is in large part just women catching up to existing men's rights.

[-] LaLiLuLeLo@kbin.social 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Just today there was a story on the front page of a male domestic abuse survivor who tried to start up a shelter for men, who eventually killed himself because he got treated like shit for it.

Now compare that to resources allocated for women victims of domestic abuse.

1 in 4 women are victims of it, while 1 in 6 men are so its not like its not a huge issue for us either. We went from a society that didnt treat abuse as an issue for anyone to one that has, yet having nothing to support us is “catching up” in your books?

[-] napoleonsdumbcousin@feddit.de 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I wrote "in large part", not "always".

Of course there are some issues where there should be more support for men. But I am pretty sure female to male domestic violence is not at the top of the list on why these people vote conservative. The conservative "solution" would be to shut down male AND female support in that regard.

[-] vzq@lemm.ee 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Poor oppressed men. The fact that their side piece can’t get an abortion anymore must really get them down.

[-] JustSomePerson@kbin.social 10 points 9 months ago

Have you considered not being a hateful piece of shit. People like you are why the blue graphs have the direction they have. You would do well to consider whether declaring half the population as evil for no other reason than their gender, can ever lead to a successful result.

[-] vzq@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago

There certainly is a hateful piece of shit in this thread, but it’s not me.

But I’m sure if you just keep externalizing instead of working on yourself, things will magically fix themselves for you!

[-] LaLiLuLeLo@kbin.social 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

What have i said to deserve your hostile response to me previously? You derided and mocked me simply for sharing how i feel on the issue, when i never said anything negative about women.

[-] Seraph@kbin.social 9 points 9 months ago

This. This is exactly why this stupid gap exists, because of shitty people like you.

"Treat everyone equally" except men fuck them apparently.

[-] vzq@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago

You’re assuming a lot things there bubba.

[-] Neato@ttrpg.network 12 points 9 months ago

Victory for women? Like how they are losing their reproductive rights and going to jail for miscarriages in America?

[-] bort@feddit.de 8 points 9 months ago

Many men can barely afford to live, let alone even think of the joys of previous generations such as home ownership, having a family, or travelling.

this is true

Conservatism grows when people are struggling.

also true

Meanwhile the news is full of victory after victory for women, so of course they’re going to support the status quo more.

I don't get this argument. "Supporting the status quo" is literally what conservatism is about, no?

[-] LaLiLuLeLo@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I view conservatism more as trying to relive the past. A rose tinted one, that seems appealing to people unhappy with today.

[-] OpenStars@startrek.website 3 points 9 months ago

“Supporting the status quo” is literally what conservatism is about, no?

Not when it attempts to violently overthrow the government, no. Liberal=change and Conservative=preserve status quo is outdated and no longer true in most cases/places. e.g. some say that Brexit was quite a "change" for the UK? But in any case it was most definitely not preserving the present status quo.

Mostly conservatism tries to recreate things from ~30 years ago as a nostalgic and optimistic hope that returning to the past will help overcome the current badness, e.g. as a method of combating inflation.

Except on top of it all is the difference between what is said vs. done, e.g. to return to the past economic success in the USA we'd have to increase the top marginal tax rate to 90%, but instead conservatives lowered taxes on the wealthy still further. "Conservatism" is often only the line that the ~~car salesmen~~ politicians sell, same as "Liberalism", for someone to get themselves into power.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 9 months ago

Leftism is not the status quo in the slightest. Men currently are far more privledged than women.

[-] LaLiLuLeLo@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Liberal is not leftist.

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