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[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

How much of that do we think is down to the steamdeck? (and I guess similar form factor alternatives)

I guess Intel dropping the ball on being competitive for a couple of generations probably hasn't helped either

[-] alessandro@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

How much of that do we think is down to the steamdeck? (and I guess similar form factor alternatives)

GPU VanGogh (the name Steam gives to SteamDeck GPU) is currently ~40% of the whole Linux userbase on Steam; so, yeah. pretty much everything.

I guess Intel dropping the ball on being competitive for a couple of generations probably hasn’t helped either

Intel has never been competitive in terms of GPUs. PCs running Intel iGPUs are machines waiting for a 'real' GPU and the like. Intel Arcs are relatively too young to have a significant weight in the totality of the userbase: naturally, for the sake of Linux, one hopes that Intel can gain more weight... specifically against Nvidia which is currently the only company to have exclusively closed source drivers

[-] Artemis@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

That implies that the remaining 60% non-vangogh GPU is evenly split between AMD and Nvidia which is still interesting given Nvidia's much higher market share. That does line up with the general disposition of Linux users - dislike of tech giants

[-] alessandro@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago

There's actually a practical problem with Nvidia.

People that use Linux don't have a single set of reference like, let's say "Windows 10 or Windows 11": there are tons of different Linux flavor you can try by simply boot a CD/USB dongle with full Vulkan support... except if it's Nvidia: since Nvidia closed source driver are restricted in distribution an/or packaging meager.

In short: with AMD/Intel GPU you got latest updated driver coming right to the very core of the OS (right in the Linux's kernel), it doesn't matter which Linux you boot, ~100% GPU driver works flawlessly

...on the other side with Nvidia? Good luck with that!

[-] RandomException@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago

I have to say I haven't had an issue with Nvidia graphics on Linux in... ummm... 10 years I guess? I used to switch between Nvidia and AMD GPUs but for the last 7 years it's only been Nvidia in my computer. Now, I would love to try the latest AMD stuff but there's one critical problem:

AMD choosing to only provide open source drivers is absolutely great except for one thing: They lack the HDMI 2.1 support on Linux because HDMI Forum doesn't allow that to be open sourced for some reason. I also happen to use an LG C2 42" "monitor" on my work desk for the great real estate and I really need the HDMI 2.1 support. So now I'm stuck with Nvidia GPUs until either AMD can implement the HDMI 2.1 support for their Linux drivers or I feel like replacing the insanely expensive monitor for something equivalent or maybe better with a DisplayPort connectivity.

[-] Artemis@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Interesting, thanks for enlightening me! That is very much ‘tech giant’ behavior

[-] saigot@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

FYI it's amd that named it vangogh not steam.

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