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Alabama condemned for nitrogen gas execution: ‘They intended to torture him’
(www.theguardian.com)
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You said "convulsing for several minutes is suspect" and "This points to the possibility of pain." Those are both affirmative statements I'd disagree with.
I've looked over enough data at this point that I'm pretty firm in my conclusions; my top-level comments reflect my sources and thinking on it. You're free to think whatever you like.
In that case you are wrong, and probably incompetent.
Your sources say nothing about convulsing without pain. The convulsions are a data point that is enough to question if pain was involved. Full stop.
You're [sic] confidence and opinion is irrelevant here.
Edit: Honestly dude, even in jest I feel a little bad applying this statement even though you did to me first. I actually don’t think this - I was swayed enough by the “I was wrong” possibility to look into it for quite a while. If you were open to hearing why, I’d be happy to talk about it, but it sounds like you’re explicitly dismissive of the idea of listening to anything that challenges your existing views. So, good luck, all the best.
Ok.
Show me some evidence that the convulsions aren't a data point to actually question the efficacy of this example of execution being humane. It creates the question of whether there was pain or not. Additionally, the possibility that this example wasn't performed correctly adds more data to support my questioning of your assertion that it was painless.
I have not implied any objective statements as if I know what occurred definitively. I'm simply saying based on what happened and how it was carried out, I can reasonably question whether this was actually humane.
This might surprise you, but I’m not obligated to continue this conversation or convince you of anything. Like I say, I’ve laid out what I think and why in other comments.
You have absolutely layed out what you think. And I've proven very easily that you're wrong and have very poor critical thinking skills. See ya.