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I'm continually perplexed by people who claim to be anti-nazi but are here to light up (checks notes) Winston Churchill.
I think there's room for "Churchill was instrumental in the fight against fascism" and "Churchill was himself racist and enacted racist policies that lead to genocide" to coexist.
In the context of a good faith conversation, I agree.
When people are bending over backwards to intentionally push well-defined buttons to drive state-level propaganda, I do not.
It's so incredibly well crafted, this doofuses original post. He argues that Zelenski is a nightmare to the Left-wing.
Why? Because it's a position and delivery crafted to the general Lemmy populace. "I'm left wing! Is Zelensky against me? Should I be reconsidering my position? Am I against Ukraine, because I'm certainly for left-wing stuff"
It's nausiatingly transparent propaganda. Ever meter of Ukraine under Russian occupation, it is illegal to even SUGGEST that LGBT is good, it's ILLEGAL to merely express POSITIVE SENTIMENT. While we can agree in Ukraine it isn't perfect, it's NOT EVEN CLOSE to the oppression in Russia.
There is nuance that adults in good faith can examine. The FBI investigation into Russian interference in US elections pointed out that the EXACT vulnerability in western sensibilities that their propeganda exploits is the concept that every assertion warrants a discussion. Just cycle wedge issues. Drop in, drop a bomb, fuck off.
It's entirely appropriate to just say "No, you're clearly a bad faith actor and I'm not going to give the illusion of legitimacy of your claims by digging into the nuances with you"