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A controversial rule restricting speech about Israel was dropped after artists abandoned festival lineups in Germany’s techno mecca.

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[-] GrandCookieMaster@ani.social 10 points 9 months ago

No. Bad news for free speech, "good news" for antisemitism.

[-] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 51 points 9 months ago

Anti-genocide and anti-apartheid ≠ antisemitism

[-] GrandCookieMaster@ani.social 4 points 9 months ago

Genocide is what Hamas wants to do.

And no i don't think Israel did nothing wrong, its not apartheid however.

[-] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 32 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

And no i don't think Israel did nothing wrong, its not apartheid however.

"Broadly speaking, apartheid was delineated into petty apartheid, which entailed the segregation of public facilities and social events, and grand apartheid, which dictated housing and employment opportunities by race."

How is it not apartheid?

Edit: wait a minute, why am I arguing with two cookie-based accounts that are pro-Israel and less than a week old on this thread...

[-] GrandCookieMaster@ani.social 3 points 9 months ago

Edit: wait a minute, why am I arguing with two cookie-based accounts that are pro-Israel and less than a week old on this thread...

Maybe stop arguing or something? Who doesn't like Cookies? Like whats your problem?

Anyway, where is apartheid in Israel? Have you been there? Have you seen any? Or are you just against a two state solution? I don't really see your point in just putting in the definition of apartheid and believing that proves your point?

[-] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Chomsky called it worse than apartheid and that was in 2014

https://www.democracynow.org/2014/8/8/noam_chomsky_what_israel_is_doing

There is a documentary called roadmap to apartheid that compares side by side what happened in south Africa and what continues to happen everyday to the Palestinians.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3psMGQE0iW4

I highly recommend it, it is hard to watch though.

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 7 points 9 months ago

As much as I agree, Chomsky is no trustworthy source on what is or isn't a genocide

The man has bent himself in so many knots denying what happened in the yugoslav wars that I'm pretty sure Bosnia would actively refuse to prosecute if someone shot the bastard in broad daylight in the middle of Sarajevo.

[-] Matombo@feddit.de 9 points 9 months ago

genocide is what some people on both sides want to do and it's sad that they are influential enough that no resolution of this conflict is in sight in my lifetime -.-

[-] Rozauhtuno 47 points 9 months ago

TIL criticizing a government is exactly the same as being racist towards its whole nation.

[-] GrandCookieMaster@ani.social 4 points 9 months ago

Thats not what the restriction was about.

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 25 points 9 months ago

"Free speech is when you're not allowed to say mean things about Bibi, it hurts his feelings!"

[-] Maeve@kbin.social 24 points 9 months ago

There is a fine line, however, restricting the ability to criticize genocide is not a good thing— unless people consider Palestinians as subhuman, subanimal, which we acknowledge some do.

[-] GrandCookieMaster@ani.social 3 points 9 months ago

Yes, but there is no genocide.

[-] BakerBagel@midwest.social 14 points 9 months ago

40,000 confirmed civilian deaths in 3 months isnt genocide? Israeli's are openly murdering anyone who looks even vaguely Palestinian in Gaza and the West Bank

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 10 points 9 months ago

The only reason Gaza isn't being called a concentration camp with a theoretical government at this point is because the west largely aren't aware that Israel subjects holocaust survivor families to abject poverty and being called Soap People.

They were literally caught stealing the reparation payments intended for the victims and their families, so much so that a NGO is now the responsible party for distributing the remaining survivor payments.

They openly cooperate with neo nazi and neo nazi associated movements in the west because the more hostile westerners are to jews the more settlers they can claim need to he housed by evicting and killing Palestinians.

These guys sure are doing a fucking lot of nazi shit for how offensive everyone seems to think pointing out they're doing stuff the Nazis did is.

[-] Maeve@kbin.social 10 points 9 months ago
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