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In the end, the KIA car company made its cars into subscription models, I really hate this because in the end the car we buy with our own money doesn't feel like it belongs to us. Should we finally buy an old school car ? so as not to be affected by this subscription models or is there a way to crack the software installed in it ?

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[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 76 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

looking through that list fully half are internal only , or tied to the remote that comes with the vehicle. no 3rd party required.

i understand all the cellular-required bits.. 'find my car'... but remote start? my brand new vehicle has remote start with no subscription.

[-] Cosmonaut_Collin@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

I think the remote start is through the Kia app, not the remote. I would imagine the idea is you can turn on the car and turn on the heat when it is cold outside so you can stay in your home a little bit longer.

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 22 points 10 months ago

yeah, the last 2 cars ive bought had this. no subscription, no app, and it works fine from the very nice remote that is also the key. maybe kia just sucks

[-] richmondez@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

By removing the feature from the remote and moving it to an app they turn a cost of a more complex remote into a profit of constant subscription money.

[-] pm_me_your_quackers@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

In the winter I'd remote start my car from the top floor and even I got to the bottom my car would be heated; their remote start uses server time.

Now if they charged me to use the remote start from my keys, that'd be a different story.

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