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[-] DeadNinja@lemmy.world 130 points 1 year ago

Excuse me - if I bought your product and paid for it, in what universe am I not investing into you, and instead you are investing into me??

HP is a steaming pile of shit.

[-] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 43 points 1 year ago

Because they sell the printers at loss, expecting you to buy their overpriced ink, continually earning them money for years.

Sounds like a subscription to be honest.

[-] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

They want to make it a subscription that starts automatically when you buy the printer. No payment or the linked credit card expires, no more printing. Keep on paying for that subscription each month even if you don't print a single page.

[-] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

HP literally has that already. They call their dystopian product "Instant ink."

[-] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

And they're fuming because they can't force this down the throat of every "bad investments". Not yet anyway.

[-] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

But they're really trying with HP+ printers that come with a 3 month trial of Instant Ink. And it's not like you lose the ability to use 3rd party cartridges, because those HP+ printers already come locked down from factory. Those HP+ printers also have extra REQUIREMENTS: HP Account and internet connection.

Imagine if you needed internet connection and some account to control your lights. Oh, Philips Hue changed their ToS, so now you do.

[-] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Why internet of things is a bad idea for 500, Alex.

[-] Archer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Here was I, thinking printers couldn’t get worse

[-] RatherBeMTB@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

The real question here is where are the Chinese printers?! I mean, it's a big market, why aren't they getting into it?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Xiaomi makes a couple of expensive standard inkjets, but mostly they make photo printers. That's the only one I can think of.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago

It's really hard to break into it. Being accurate enough to print at 300dpi is very difficult, and that's not particularly impressive. If it's color, then the problems are multiplied. You have to precisely align four different print heads (minimum), and the ink needs to be mixed just right for accurate colors.

This is also why you don't see open source 2d printers like you do for 3d printers. On the surface, adding a third dimension seems like it'd make things more complicated, but 3d printers don't need the level of accuracy that 2d printers do.

[-] RatherBeMTB@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

But I would think TVs and microchips are more complicated than printers. And those two have been cracked by the Chinese.

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