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submitted 8 months ago by PizzaDeposit@lemm.ee to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

I assume there must be a reason why sign language is superior but I genuinely don't know why.

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[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

And they'd have no idea what ASL was....

So what's your point?

Not even every English speaking country uses ASL, and it's different in different regions even in America.

[-] Devi@kbin.social 2 points 8 months ago

You’ve got confused. A lot of deaf people speak ASL, BSL, AUSLAN etc exclusively. They don’t speak English. Speaking both is bilingual.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Who's talking about speaking?

We're talking about reading/writing/typing...

I would be insanely surprised if someone used American/British/Australian sign language yet didn't know a single written language. Especially not the one used in their geographical location

[-] Devi@kbin.social 2 points 8 months ago
[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

That blog is an argument for helping them with literacy when in school...

Not giving up on literacy as an adult.

If a deadlf adult has difficulty reading, it's not because they're deaf or it's "not their first language" it's probably because they were left behind in school because really old stereotypes were still around when they were in school

You seem to be arguing that those harmful stereotypes are true, and deaf people are innately bad at written language. Which frankly is offensive enough I'm done here.

Lots of different groups get left behind in schools, it doesn't mean they're stupid, it means they didn't get the education they need.

[-] Devi@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago

Absolute bollocks. How many languages do you speak? It is difficult to learn a second language, some don’t and there’s an argument that kids shouldn’t be forced to as learning two languages at once can delay their primary language.

Nobody is saying that people who can’t speak two languages are ‘stupid’ except you.

Maybe read a little and you might learn something?

[-] Gabu@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

How many languages do you speak?

I speak 3 confidently, on the path to 5. If the intent is to simply glean information from a native speaker, I'm currently at 7.

It is difficult to learn a second language

It isn't. Americans and some anglophones think that's the case because they're lazy and look for excuses.

some don’t and there’s an argument that kids shouldn’t be forced to as learning two languages at once can delay their primary language.

That's complete bullshit. You do know that kids in most of the world grow up learning between 2 and 3 languages in school and that doesn't impair their native language at all, right?

[-] Devi@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago

I’ve replied to your other message with the info that you’re looking for.

Many people speak multiple languages but it’s a choice that parents make for their offspring and some make a different choice.

Some also see other languages as more important and I know in America it’s not uncommon for deaf people to speak ASL and LSM if they come from a Hispanic community.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Who's talking about speaking?

We're talking about reading/writing/typing...

I would be insanely surprised if someone used American/British/Australian sign language yet didn't know a single written language

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