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[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Is Trump the BUT KHAMASSSS for American Democrats?

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

I'm a leftist, not a Democrat. Electoralism cannot work, read "Reform or Revolution." Electoralism is purely harm reduction, and allowing harm to accelerate is privledged.

If you want leftist movement, then join an org and advocate at the grassroots level, organize, unionize, and win local elections. Voting third party to virtue signal your LARP instead of touching grass and actually doing something is a great way to lose support of the Proletariat.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Ask 2016 Bernie how spending his entire life doing that went

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

Ask yourself. Bernie is verified proof that electoralism is bullshit.

Read theory and stop LARPing.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Anyone supporting genocide is not a leftist. The only one larping is you.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

You're supporting genocide. Do you legitimately think the best way to stop genocide is to spoiler your vote so you can virtue signal while someone who has only demonstrated themselves to be far more militant the last time they were in power comes back into power?

Again, read theory, otherwise I'm just going to assume you're either a bot or a fed. You openly support electing Trump and escalating the genocide of Palestinians just so you can virtue signal, it's a betrayal of the international Proletariat.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

https://youtu.be/LgZuC65u_7Q?t=1m6s

This is what Biden is trying to give 15 Billion to. If you're going to tell me this isn't straight up Nazism then I don't know what is.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Israel is absolutely conducting genocide and Biden is absolutely bankrolling it, yes. Trump would at minimum maintain that status quo and has not indicated he wouldn't.

Let's follow your theory-less LARP to completion. You valiantly spoil your vote and vote third party, for a middling demsoc with a shady past. What next? Do you think Trump isn't going to absolutely dumpster Biden if every single leftist in America votes third party?

Trump takes office, and maintains America's genocidal campaign. But hey! At least you can say you voted third party, amiright? No moral responsibility here! You washed your hands proudly as Trump doubles down the ethnic cleansing campaign to wipe Gaza off the map.

You've also said grassroots movements won't do anything either, so you're anti-grass touching and clearly can't be counted on to help win local elections or organize unions on the ground, you know, actual leftist movements that stand a chance of moving America to the left and winning local battles.

Is your end game to just Stan Trump, or is it to pretend you're not morally responsible for Trump genociding Palestinians? Either way, you're certainly not a leftist, because you advocate against leftism.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Israel commits genocide because they believe the end justifies the means.

If the means are a geriatric old man going senile I'm fine with it.

If the means are genocide then that's where a line must be drawn.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago

You aren't drawing the line, lmao. You're both refusing grassroots movements and allowing the other genocidal leader who will probably double down, purely so you can virtue signal.

How do you legitimately see your LARP going? Play it out for me.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Ah yes the grassroots Genocide movement.

If Biden loses in polling they will need to either swap him out for someone that isn't a Nazi or lose. As long as needed until third parties start gaining tractions and Genocrat voters jump ship.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago

Walk me through your LARP. I'm not advocating for grassroots democrat promotion, but grassroots Unionization and winning of local elections, and you know that because I've already said that. Of course, unless you think electing Socialists to local office and unionizing is genocide, in which case you're probably a fed.

Seriously, walk me through. You aren't unionizing or trying to get Socialists elected locally, and are actively voting third party in the federal election. Do you truly think anything else will happen other than handing the win to Trump, enabling even worse genocide? How are you planning on helping the people of Gaza if you aren't trying to actually put pressure on from below?

You're LARPing, you haven't read theory, you're just a fed or a bot.

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