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Hamas says two Israeli hostages have been killed by Israeli airstrikes
(www.theguardian.com)
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Has nothing to do with what I wrote.
People won't listen to a person who is an obvious genocide denier.
Answer the question.
Do you believe that starving a population you don't like is genocide?
It still has nothing to do with what I wrote. You can taunt all you like, but I'll address you when you respond to what I communicate rather than your beliefs.
It's not a taunt.
It's trying to get you to say out loud what you obviously believe.
You don't want to because you know it will discredit you to other people reading this thread.
I'm glad you know me so well.
And yet you still refuse to answer. I responded directly to your question above, as you requested, and yet you still haven't answered.
Pardon. Lots of things going on.
First, you might find this timeline helpful. https://www.usip.org/palestinian-politics-timeline-2006-election
Second. Been to the region, and I don't believe there was ever a time when Gaza could feed itself. It must depend on food aid for the population to survive. They do a little fishing, of course, but the ground is arrid and very few crops will grow there. There is no industry, so very little money to buy food. So, the world stepped up and gives them aid. 200 trucks a day from Egypt. When that's disrupted people are going to be hungry. One reason I increased my contributions to World Kitchen. As I understand they are back to 200 trucks a day.
200 trucks a day is not the number that is required. 2000 per day is required. Again, you should use your brain here. You think 200 trucks can feed a population of 2.2 million? How big do you think those trucks are? Did you think about this for even a second while typing it?
Also, 200 a day are not going in. 200 trucks per day is what went in during the temporary seize fire.
The ground being arid doesn't matter, what matters is that Israel has blockaded them for the last 17 years. An act of war, by the by, so if Israel is at war with the Gazan population, it is one that it started 17 year ago.
You act as if having money would allow Gaza to buy food. How would it be delivered? Israel interdicts all incoming goods, and refuses to allow all food in. They have boasted about intentionally putting Gaza on a starvation diet before the war.
It's actually ironic, in that that is part of what made Hamas as powerful as it is right now. Part of the original purpose, though obviously not the entire purpose was to smuggle food in, and then sell it in Gaza. Good job Bibi.
You still didn't answer the question.
Do you believe a government intentionally starving a population it views as undesirable is genocide?
The US, EU, etc. Are buying and distributing aid. They send these trucks via NGOs for food distribution. 200 is the number they have. Don't know if it's enough but it seemed to be the last few years.
Isreal looks at these shipments to make sure they don't contain material or weapons that could be used against them. The US Coast Guard does the same exercise.
I don't accept the premise of your question, as it assumes facts not in evidence. But, if I read it plainly, of course not.
It is not enough. And if you're reading just 200, than you're not reading correctly.
Again, 200 was the number during the temporary seize fire.
I never argued about people buying and sending in food aid, and you're obviously writing that to try and distract from the point.
You're also trying to sidestep the 2000 number with the:
comment. You should know. You should know that it isn't enough based on the population numbers that we seem to agree on, and the statement you made earlier about the arid conditions. (That's part of the issue with the peace process. Funny how most of the water sources ended up on the other side of the wall. Why would anyone agree to peace when they won't have water?) You should know that 200 isn't enough in the same way that you should know that the sky is blue on a sunny day.
How do you not comprehend that this:
is a lie when Israel openly boasts about putting the Gazan population on a starvation diet. That is because they don't allow **FOOD ** in. Food is not a weapon. Do you think food is a weapon?
Finally:
is not an answer. I'm not asking you to state Israel is committing genocide.
First I want you to admit that a group not allowing enough food for a population is trying to kill off a portion of that population.
There are no facts assumed there.
The facts tying Israels actions, along with citations proving that that is happening, comes later.
So, do you think a government (any government) intentionally withholding food, potable water, and medicine from a population it considers undesirable (Any undesirable population) is committing genocide?
I'm sorry you're disappointed.
Perhaps you should ask aid contributors why they don't roll your 2,000 trucks a day.
You got your answer.
I did get my answer, and so did everyone else reading this.
Everyone knows why you don't want to answer.
Also, the issue isn't the aid contributors. It's the government stopping that food and not allowing it