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submitted 2 years ago by Custoslibera@lemmy.world to c/memes@lemmy.ml

It’s not like any candidate was actually good but they did pick the worst one.

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[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Honestly this is just liberal strongman politics.

Please learn to identify and complain about the things that are actually increasing fascism and not just be like "bad people might make the country bad if they're in charge" Trump is a symptom not the disease.

[-] Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net 15 points 2 years ago

You still need to treat symptoms

[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

And if you only treat symptoms, what happens?

Also no, in many cases you do not have to treat symptoms, and it can be damaging to do so. It's not a good extension of the metaphor.

[-] YeetPics@mander.xyz 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

only

Great, another 'absolute'. I wish you could discuss in good faith.

.ml consistency lmao

[-] Custoslibera@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

What, in your opinion, is actually increasing fascism if not Trump?

[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

As empires collapse imperial violence turns inward. For a more in depth analysis I would read anticolonial theory or Marxist analysis of Nazi germany, like "economy and class structure of german fascism"

[-] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago

So...threatening to retaliate against those who didn't vote for him last election? Removing rights from various classes of people? Those kinds of things?

[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Yes those are all indications of colonial violence turned inward.

[-] Custoslibera@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Hmmmm

It’s possible to be more than one thing driving fascism.

In the absence of a general worker uprising to bring about revolution (this isn’t going to happen before the election) stopping Trump is a fine alternative to stem fascism.

We know that fascists need a charismatic leader with unquestionable authority (Trump) may as well cut that head off the snake now.

Does that stop capitalist interests? No, their money and power is still there but it at least won’t be manifesting through a dictator.

Capitalist interests have operated just fine without a dictator.

[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I mean we don't have a dictator and we're involved in killing tens of thousands of Palestinian civilians over the course of a month. Even if Trump is never elected again we keep sliding into fascism, and liberalism doesn't really have a response to that besides to join in.

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