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Hamas says two Israeli hostages have been killed by Israeli airstrikes
(www.theguardian.com)
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Hamas is the government.
This whole 'Hamas is evil incarnate' thing is propaganda itself. Everyone hears Hamas and thinks militant.
Hamas is the government.
The pencil pusher ministry of health dude? Hamas.
The hospital administrator? Hamas
The non doctors without borders doctors? Hamas.
This is like calling every person that was a reservist in the IDF at the festival a combatant. It's as much of a lie.
Just because they're the government doesn't mean everything they say is true. They're going to lie and push propaganda just like any other government or organisation would.
And yet, multiple different unbiased organizations have found the Hamas Ministry of Health numbers to be accurate.
At this point, accusing them of being wrong 'because Hamas' is obviously bad faith propaganda.
It also goes with what our lying eyes see. Unrestrained bombing in a location the size of Manhattan with 2.2 million inhabitants is going to kill a lot of people.
Trying to argue otherwise is trying to argue against what is obviously true.
You forgot quite a few roles!
Those guys touting a dead body on a car? Hamas.
Those guys starting a war they're too weak to finish? Hamas.
When was the last election?
Was less than half of the population alive than?
The population of Gaza has increased 100% in the last decade.
You keep responding with sentences that are literally not related to the questions asked.
Almost like you don't have answers that don't sound horrifically racist.
You have yet to tell me when the last election was that made Hamas the government.
17 Years ago.
Do you believe a government starving an undesirable population is genocide?
Hey @Rapidcreek you are answering others.
Why are you ignoring this question so hard?
Also, just to go back to this point:
This is an argument that holocaust deniers use to try and deny the holocaust. It's even stupider for them, because the numbers didn't actually go up, but no one ever said that holocaust deniers were smart.
Do you want to be using the same argument holocaust deniers try and use?
I think your point is well made, and I want to expand on it a bit, because it's a tricky thing for people to make sense of.
Hamas' militant arm is highly independent. Their civil administration answers to and collaborates with the same leadership, but the civilian leadership has very little control over the fighters, which operate along the lines of a militia, but in concert with a civil administration. So when we say "Hamas", we could be talking about the administrative workers or the military, and they're pretty different groups.
This makes describing them difficult. It's somewhat inaccurate to characterize Hamas as merely a terrorist group, but also as a conventional government. They're more of an unofficial ruling party that dominates a collapsed state, I think.