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Last time I checked killing people is still murder in Florida, which is a crime.
There are many other common everyday items in society that can kill people if misused, yet they are not illegal in the post office.
Edit: Wow soo many downvotes for simply pointing out the fact that murder is still illegal in Florida.
No, no, and no. If your are president you can totally murder and it is not a crime unless you are impeached and convicted - heard from a source that is considered reliable in Florida.
That is a very flawed opinion put forth in a court case outside of the state of Florida. Murder is still illegal in Florida.
I dunno, some people are claiming to have "total immunity." Big people, important people. Some tell me the most important.
You might want to find a someone else to “tell you things “.
Isn't Florida a stand your ground state?
"I'm in danger..."
Yes, Florida is a stand your ground state. We have no legal obligation to flee when attacked. We can fight back and use lethal force if necessary.
Slow down there, George Zimmerman.
Those skittles and hoodie were so much more dangerous than any gun.
Still don't get how he got off in that case
Trayvon Martin was black and it's Florida. I think it's pretty much that simple.
The case has been argued in court and Zimmerman was found innocent by a jury of his peers.
I see. So OJ Simpson also did not murder his ex-wife and her boyfriend, correct?
OJ was acquitted of the charges by a jury of his peers and is considered innocent.
The Zimmerman case had a lot more relevant eyewitness evidence as well as an audio recording of the shooting. None of this existed for the OJ trial.
So OJ didn't kill his ex-wife and her husband. You believe that, correct?
I was not on the jury in that courtroom. I have to trust that our peers made the right decision.
I see. So you believe court decisions always determines truth.
In that case, evolution is false. Scopes lost his case and was fined $100 for teaching evolution.
Scopes wasn’t a murder trial, it’s an extreme stretch of the imagination to try and compare the two when they aren’t remotely related in any way.
Scopes didn’t even know if he taught evolution but intentionally incriminated himself to challenge the Butler act which made teaching evolution in schools a crime. The whole case was a farce to bring attention to the town and to highlight the debate surrounding teaching evolution in schools.
He was found guilty and sentenced to pay a fine but was let off on a technicality.
Teaching evolution in schools eventually won the day. But is in danger because people believe that lying or making false comparisons is justified to push their narrative.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scopes_trial
I see, so only murder trials determine what is or is not true.
The case you cited was a complete farce. I’m surprised you are still trying to make an issue of it. Murder trials are there to establish guilt or innocence based on the evidence.
Sitting on a thread reading about someone’s opinion is far different than sitting on a jury hearing evidence for hours a day. I’m going to put my trust in the jury rather than some internet strangers opinion who is trying to collect imaginary points for clout.
I see, so murder cases determine fact unless they are a complete farce.
How do we know whether it was fact or a farce? What are the rules here?
Once again you are conflating a staged case about evolution with murder trial.
At this point I have to ask, do you understand the difference?
I am? Weird, because I'm pretty sure I said 'murder cases' in my previous comment. Let me check.
Yep, I said 'murder cases.'
Was Scopes tried for murder and I missed that part in the history books?
Because it's either that or in your zeal to berate me, you didn't actually read the comment.
And you don't see any problem with that, even though he did kill an innocent and unarmed person?
The defense established that Trayvon Martin attacked Zimmerman. For that reason the jury acquitted Zimmerman.
You can speculate and apply your beliefs to build whatever narrative you are trying to construct. But those are the facts of the case.
Yes and a person throwing a paper ball at you is technically attacking you too, you wanna just shoot everyone? Jesus. Lethal force should not your only option when you're going out looking for trouble. That's why they don't just give cops guns and say "shoot em if they don't listen."
That’s quite the straw man you’ve built there. But no, if we take a trip to reality, no one is shooting anyone because they threw paper balls. If they did it wouldn’t qualify as stand your ground, it would be murder.
You realize that means he's found innocent by a bunch of people who think like him. That doesn't make his logic and people's acceptance of it ok. Hell back in the day a jury of peers would find a slave guilty for running away.
You do realize that the defense and prosecution both have a say in Jury selection.
Jury’s also don’t establish law, they just rule on if the defendant violated it.
Do you want to reach any further back in time to try and establish a false equivalency? We could debate trial by combat or something.
Yes, if kid runs up and knocks your drink out of your hand, kill that fool! Fight back!
That is quite the story there. Do you win all the internet arguments in your head when you make them up like that?
Nowhere did I state it was ok to shoot anyone for knocking a drink. I pointed out where stand your ground laws apply and where they did not. Murder is still murder.
Are these other common everyday items purpose built for killing someone?
Killing multiple someones from across the room...?
No more so than firearms.
Wrong.
Thank you for your detailed contribution to the conversation.
Lmao, what were guns invented for if not to kill things? And which everyday object in the post office was equally invented to kill people?
It was your second paragraph that got you the downvotes. And/or missing the joke
Downvotes aren't necessarily disagreements. Sometimes they're just about helping other people invest their time better.
It's a joke.