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[-] OnlyTakesLs@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago

Racism is a fantastic way of introducing conflict without having to come up with a particular reason. And stories without conflict are often really boring. Comes with the bonus points of being realistic.

[-] soviettaters@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago

Unironically, the elves aren't racist against orcs. Orcs were elves that got corrupted.

[-] OnlyTakesLs@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

Arent there worlds where theyre made of clay? Or other origins?

Pretty much the only consitent thing about orks are that they big, dumb, and muscle bound.

[-] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Outside of lord of the rings? Yeah, sure. Outside of existing stories orcs can be literally anything.

[-] soviettaters@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

Uruk hai were created from clay or something like that. They're the ones you see come out of the pit in the LOTR movies.

[-] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

They must be something else though. As even Melkor was not able to create, only twist and distort. I doubt his lesser could do that which he could not. I don’t think even Saruman could create life.

[-] Shawdow194@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago

I dont think there is a canon to the Uruk hai origin other than they are "...cross between orcs and men...". The depiction of them coming from the ground is just how Tolkien described "...worm their way out of the ground like maggots..."

In reality its likely slaves of Sauron and orcs making Uruk hai in a not so pleasant way

[-] Zozano@lemy.lol 3 points 10 months ago

Soooo... You want the fantasy racism to be justified?

[-] OnlyTakesLs@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

Like in what way? Ideally, every bit of world building would be justified, but thats not always realistic.

[-] Zozano@lemy.lol 2 points 10 months ago

I think justifiable racism might just be unrealistic enough to be exclusive to the fantasy genre in the first place lol.

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