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It’s never going to be that easy. I’m sure each of us can find a candidate we like better but a successful run is more than that:
While I think the President is doing a great job, I’d prefer someone more progressive. However that might alienate more voters than it would attract. I will not risk another trumptastrophe by insisting on more Progressiveness over electable, “progressive enough” and not insane
The age thing does bother me, but I can only dream of doing that well at that age.
We should focus on VP. We want someone in the wings and we want them to build name recognition, and that hasn’t worked for the current VP
So after this, if trump loses and runs again, you'll be ok with continuing to support candidates you don't fully align with just to stop the boogie man? What about once trump is gone and the Republicans have some new piece of shit boogieman in the running? What will it take for you to be comfortable voting with the people that you most closely align with?
I never understood this absolutism. I’ll vote for the candidate closest to my views every time, and have voted for third party candidates in the past. But it’s ridiculous to vote based on only one issue
What other choice do some of us have? I would love a centrait president. Like actual centrist. I know going further left that that is impossible at this current point, but even centrist is a super long shot to even win the primary. Bernie can't even get enough people who support him to vote for him.
So let's say Project 2025 becomes P2029. P2033. P2037. As a gay man, I need to keep pushing that back. If not, me and my community get even more fucked than we are. That's when things like genocide start to happen. I don't get the choice of risking a republican being elected. The only hope I have is either as younger people start getting to voting ages, and older people die out, and religion starts to disappear, that maybe things will change.
It's either that or I leave. Granted, me and my boyfriend are highly considering it, for multiple reasons. But it won't be something we can consider. It's something we will need to do.
Bernie was robbed of the nomination by a last second rule change on the floor of the convention where the votes weren't even accurately represented in the final decision.
The left keeps moving to the right to try to appeal to voters, while aligning independents. They could stop, and move the far right further left. But dems are too concerned with appealing to the wrong people.
The best you can do is arm yourself and participate in your local elections and communities. At the end of the day you can only completely rely on yourself and those around you.
I don't disagree, but it also only works out so well for many, many people. Like depending on where someone lives, their community is largely the people they needed to be protected from. I'm lucky in that I live in Portland. A fairly progressive, if not at least performative prgressives, but at least we won't be the first to go. But since I have sympathy and empathy for people, I would rather it not come to that. Accelerationsm is just sacrificing marginalized communities. And I get you're not much of an ally, and that's fine. I'll take people who don't care but are willing to let us live our lives. But for the rest of us, I can't get behind the mentality of just throwing people in the fire and saying "Well I'm just gonna watch over myself." That's a part of how things like dictators happen. And once that happens, participating locally won't be enough, because things like local elections wont be a thing anymore.
I don't disagree with your logic in general, but Trump isn't a boogeyman. A boogeyman isn't real. A boogeyman can't hurt you. We all saw how Trump ran things. It's not an imagined threat.
What would it take to be comfortable voting FOR someone and not AGAINST the other one? Easy: ranked choice voting.
I fully support ranked choice and we have mountains to climb in many states before its enacted