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[-] priapus@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago

GNOME is primarily written in C

[-] yukijoou 6 points 1 year ago

the desktop shell is mostly javascript though

[-] priapus@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago

Closer to 50/50, and other parts of the GNOME desktop like mutter, are largely C. Saying the entire GNOME desktop is mostly JS is silly.

[-] kbal@fedia.io 2 points 1 year ago

On the other hand, saying that there's way too much javascript in it is objectively factual.

[-] priapus@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

You don't get to decide what too much JS in the project is unless you actually work on and have in depth knowledge of the project. I dont like JS, but it has its uses.

Many people are conflating modern electron bloatware with 'JS bad', but things are not that simple.

[-] Aradia@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

No one here said GNOME desktop is mostly JS.

[-] priapus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

You're right, they said the desktop shell, which is still incorrect, but I guess a little less incorrect. My bad.

[-] Aradia@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Well, I started this thread saying it runs on JavaScript, and I mean that they need JS for most of the interactions with the desktop, like gesture or mouse events. 😞 Even if most of the code is C, we all know we need to write much many lines of code of C to do the same with JS, so most of the logics on GNOME is computed by JS. We need some rust here. 🦀 🦀 🦀 🦀

[-] Aradia@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, on their git says 46% of the code is JavaScript: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell

That's pretty much, almost half of the code.

[-] priapus@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

That page also shows that there is more C. That page is also specifically the shell, not all of the desktop.

[-] Aradia@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

There is less than 4% more code in C than JavaScript. That's pretty much, many features on the gnome-desktop is using JavaScript too, like gestures and mouse events.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

The JavaScript and typescript gtk bindings are nice and make building apps nice.

[-] Aradia@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Okay, but still needs JavaScript, they are slowly trying to remove or improve it. But it is a fact that it also runs on JavaScript. 🤣

[-] priapus@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago

Using JavaScript isn't inherently a bad thing. JavaScript can be very useful when used for scripting. Obviously anything with a new for performance will be done in C.

[-] Aradia@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

JavaScript isn't the best language to make a desktop interface in my opinion, it can be very efficient, but you can see in bugs (at least in the past) how bad performance it had, and they needed to re-factor it to replace to C or improve the JavaScript. I'm just laughing and making fun of it using JavaScript, not saying it is slow, Gnome is pretty fast nowadays.

[-] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Javascript was a toy created in the mid 90s to make dumb interactive animations and have some sort of dynamic aspect to a web page. The world starting to code entire desktop programs and servers in it was a giant, horrific, societal mistake.

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