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Found it first here - https://mastodon.social/@BonehouseWasps/111692479718694120
Not sure if this is the right community to discuss here in Lemmy?
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I mean, they would have started appearing in there from the first moment that someone created one and hosted it somewhere, no? So it's already been a thing for a couple years now, I believe.
Yeah but AI is a buzz word and hating it is fun at the current moment!
Well it is pretty shitty though. It needs conscousness and feelings. That crap out there is barely AI.
I'm wondering if we give AI consciousness is it more likely to identify humans as a threat to the Earth and try to eliminate us or would it empathize with it's creators? Seems risky...
Humans are not a threat to the Earth. Do you mean that humans are a threat to the environment? That would mean that we're a threat to ourselves. It wouldn't make sense to destroy us to save us from ourselves.
What if the ai towed all the humans beyond the environment?
Into another environment?
This line of thinking assumes it would prioritize Earth exclusively over humans, which is only likely if the AI is created with that specific intent.
Doesn't need to be super advanced AI to be used as a tool by irresponsible or malicious humans.
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Apart from - you know, all the photographers, designers, authors and musicians out there.
Yes.The ones who routinely use copyright to get some form of payment. I know several people who had their photographs reublished by the Daily Mail and subsequently got payment. It happens. It's an imperfect system, but still one that allows small artists to make a living.
I mean, it really isn't. It's the entire backbone of an industry whereby, for example a photographer or illustrator can supply woirk to a magazine on a single use license. It's how people who supply photo libraries make a living. It's how small bands have at least some protection.
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People have been saying Copyright is BS since at least the 90s when Disney pulled their shenanigans (again) and probably even before that
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Copyright is not the same thing as intellectual property though
Copyright is law which is used to prevent free copying of media, while "intellectual property" is a term cooked up by corporate suits to generalize copyright, trademarks, and patents and equate them with property law. Richard Stallman wrote about this.
Intellectual property comes before any of those things. If I paint a picture, it's my intellectual property whether I apply for some legal definition or not.
It's not the same thing as a copyright. Anyone can have intellectual property
That is certainly an opinion.
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Um no, we're defending actual open AI models, I couldn't give 2 shits about OpenAI. They have the funding to license things, but that open source model? Trying to compete against big corporations like Microsoft and Google? They don't.
You're actually advocating for the big corporations, what's going to happen if things go the way you want is the truly open models will die off and big corporations will completely control AI from then on. Is that what you really want?
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I fail to see what he or your comment has to do with Generative AI models, which is what we are talking about.
I don't think you fully understand how Generative AIs work. The input data is used in a similar, but far more rudimentary way, to learn as humans do. The model itself contains no recognizable original data, just a bunch of numbers, math and weights in an attempt to simulate the neurons and synaptic pathways that our brains form when we learn things.
Yes, a carefully crafted prompt can get it to spit out a near identical copy of something it was trained on (assuming it had been trained on enough data of the target artist to begin with), but so can humans. In those cases humans have gotten in trouble when attempting to profit off it and therefore in that case justice must be served regardless of if it was AI or human that reproduced it.
But to use something that was publicly available on the Internet for input is fair game just as any human might look at a sampling of images to nail down a certain style. Humans are just far more efficient at it with far far less needed data
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Not all AIs do, the more "traditional" ones that you're probably thinking of don't. The ones that are generating text, images and video, however, are based on Generative Adversarial Networks a type of Deep learning Neural Network and those do learn albeit in a rudimentary fashion compared to humans, but learning none the less.
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Lol at this account spamming AI related posts with angry unintelligible comments and trying to bait people into arguments
Nothing like the thrill of being part of an angry mob! All the dopamine of righteous fury, none of the responsibility.
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Pretty soon, stupid shit Musk does will start being posted here.
Whaddya mean nearly every tech article posted here are variations of "Elon bad upvotes to the left"