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[-] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Humans have not only sat on that couch; we've slept on it, puked on it, taken a dump on it, taken it outside and set fire to it.

[-] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

As does every other life form, given the chance. We are the only one, that we know of, which even has a concept of conservation. We have the power to consciously regulate our behavior.

In the end, my point is that either life is valuable for its own sake, including humans, or it isn't, including the rest of the ecosystem. Any philosophy which posits that the existence of other life forms is more valid than that of humans is foundationally inconsistent. I'm certainly not saying that human life is more valid than others, but either life is valid or out isn't. Humans aren't special one way or the other.

[-] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

That's just garbage talk. Sure we can enjoy life now and not consider the future of the planet but is your life more worth than the future of our own species? I find it deeply concerning that we as humans know what to do to not go extinct, buy don't do it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrying_capacity

[-] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

is your life more worth than the future of our own species?

Where exactly does the future of the species come from if no one has kids?

[-] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It's not black or white. Or on and off

I don't expect all human reproduction to just stop. But cutting down on the human population by either having no children or only one, would substantially reduce the load humans place on the planet and mayne even increase quality of life. Not to mention that it would improve the chances of other species to thrive.

[-] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

Sure. But your framing of not having children as "environmentally friendly", if embraced, results in only the unconscientious people having kids. That's literally the premise of Idiocracy.

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 3 points 10 months ago

There is absolutely no scenario in which everyone stops having children. If everyone who could be convinced not to have children is convinced, there will still be plenty of human beings.

[-] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

As I've said, if you convince everyone who considers their environmental impact to not have children, who does that leave having children? What becomes of the environment when it's only the environmentally negligent raising future generations?

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