We should also consider how the efforts of AI can be directed towards solving human aging; if aging is solved then everyone's time preference will go down a lot and we can take our time planning a path to a stable and safe human-primacy post-singularity world.

This shit is so funny. It always comes back around to immortality with these people.

I spent my adult life to this point seeking to understand enlightenment and transcendence, and if you aren't reading the doctrines of an immortality cult (lots of that in daoism and tescreal, oddly enough) then mostly you come to find that overcoming the fear of death is a big part of it. You can't have a free and open mind if the shadow of your mortality looms, so you learn to let go of it as one more attachment.

I think it's very revealing of what shallow minds these people truly have that the desperate craving for immortality is so naked in their beliefs. That the concept of it goes so unexamined as well (oh we just make everyone immortal and then we all agree to debate and solve our AI problem? Because that would work?)

Like, how stupid do you have to be to say on the one hand that unexamined AI risk requires a massive effort to run simulations and game theory out the consequences, but then on the other hand to be like "things would be better if everyone was immortal. I will take no further questions on that."