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For the bigots out here, this is just the Taliban being incels. Nothing related to religion, if anything a lack of religious knowledge.
https://en.vogue.me/culture/afghanistan-taliban-women-school-ban/
Religion is the vehicle of monstrosity
I guess the Americans Genocide in Palestine is just a very religious crusade. Must be Jesus's fault!
I cannot tell if this argument is for, against, or just dumb
Who knows. All these secular nations are the most moral until they do evil stuff then it's religion's fault.
America is not a secular nation lmao. The entire language of the Bush administration during the Iraq war was one of a 'holy war' -- they wanted it to be a new crusade.
The one positive aim he had in the Middle East, driven by religion, was achieving a state for Palestine and security for Israel, so he's at least 0 for 2
America just wanted a base in the middle east to extort and terrorize other countries with and steal their oil. Bush was as religious as Donald Trump.
Hypocrites abusing religion as a pretense for their misdeeds are described in pretty much every religious book.
Now defend the CCP and China. Are they religious too?
I'm not arguing that secular people (or, indeed, nations) can't be evil. While you bring up China, though, it's a bit of a myth that they're not religious; approximately 80% of the Chinese population practise cults of gods and ancestors or belong to folk religious movements.
My point was that it's a bit odd to pick the US as your example of a secular country when it is at the moment de facto Christian.
With regards to Bush being 'as religious as Trump', that's just simply not true. He's a pretty devout Christian, and has put it in a prominent position in all his campaign rhetoric, more than any other president of this generation. If you just Google George W Bush religion you'll find plenty of news articles from a variety of sources saying that (e.g. this or this).
"God chose him" huh.
Titus 1:16
It's about as logical as I'd expect from someone trying to defend religion.
Oh yes, it's "religion is not a at fault" right here.
As well described in another comment thread, Quran literally encourages everyone to learn, with no gendered distinction made.
You may easily write off bigotry on religion, but it's literally them doing some crazy shit and covering with religion that clearly says not to do this.
That's same as many American Christians literally ignoring the Bible, but this time way more consequential. Bigots will stick to religion as an instrument of power and hope nobody actually reads the sacred books, because they never said all those things. Should there be no religion, they'd use something else.
That is not to say religions are flawless. But bigotry just uses religion as a cover, it doesn't come from it.
Religion in reality is defined by the action of its adherents. The books are just pieces of paper, that the holy book doesn't condone this cruelty is immaterial when the adherents are overwhelmingly indulged in it. There are definitely Islamic sects around the globe that are socially good, but Talibani Islam is filth that needs to be eradicated.
Sure, and here we can agree.
Just saying that Talibani Islam is as far from actual Islam as Greenland from Australia.