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[-] CaptnNMorgan@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

So semantics is your final rebuttal. Great.

[-] derf82@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It’s not semantics. Breeds are not races.

[-] CaptnNMorgan@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized." Is the definition for "Racism" on Google.

It's obviously specifically directed to humans but when I was using that word I was applying it to non-humans. I imagine it's hard for you to take the irrelevant parts specifically about humans out and use the remaining definition that is relevant on a broader spectrum. But I'm looking forward to you explaining why that's stupid.

[-] CaptnNMorgan@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

Right, I used the wrong word. Would the right word be "Breedist"? I really don't think so but it's all I can think of.

[-] derf82@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

There is no works for it because it is a concept that doesn’t exist.

Even you admit selective breeding is a thing. Border collies herd things by instinct. Huskys love snow and pulling things. Golden retrievers love fetch. Pit bulls have an extremely powerful bite. It’s just how those breeds are.

[-] CaptnNMorgan@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

I agree that a pitbull bite is more dangerous than most other dog bites but that doesn't mean they are more likely to bite. Pitbulls behavior like every other dog is determined by the training it gets and how much energy it is able to expel. Any dog that is pent up and not properly trained could bite someone. It's true that a pitbull bite is a lot worse than a Chihuahuas, but if the owner can't train their dog they shouldn't even have one no matter the breed.

[-] derf82@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I don’t disagree entirely (although I think an attack instinct kicks is a lot faster in pit bulls), but that’s my point. A pit bull bite is simply inherently more lethal. Since we are not going to license and regulate dog owners and monitor their training efforts, the best alternative is not having dangerous breeds.

[-] CaptnNMorgan@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

Not all pitbulls are work dogs. It's not even a real breed first of all but the dogs that we consider pitbulls come from all kinds, they have work dogs and dogs that were bred for homes. If any kind of dog should be outlawed, it should be work dogs in general. To single out such a broad kind of dog, like "pitbull" is ignorant.

[-] derf82@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I will never agree. Pit bulls are dangerous, and I will die with that opinion

[-] CaptnNMorgan@reddthat.com 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Which breed of dog are you talking about though? Because "pitbull" is not a breed. Do you mean all of the 3-5 breeds ignorant people consider pitbulls? Or do you just mean one of them, if so which one?

[-] derf82@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

No, the breed’s most people consider pit bulls. Staffordshire Bull Terrier, American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, and so on, as well as mixes.

Stop claiming people are ignorant just because they disagree with you. That is what is truly ignorant.

I hate pit bulls with a passion and would gladly kill every single one. The world would be a safer place.

[-] CaptnNMorgan@reddthat.com 1 points 11 months ago

You are a bigot and sound exactly the same as the people who fought for racist slavery. One is a lot worse but they're both bad and come from ridiculous opinions.

[-] derf82@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

You are a ridiculous asshole. It’s a fucking dog. Maybe when a pit kills one of your loved ones, you will see what horrible creatures they are.

[-] CaptnNMorgan@reddthat.com 1 points 11 months ago

I would want to kill the dogs owner not the dog if that happened because I understand it's a product of it's environment. There are no bad dogs just bad people. How you can't see that is beyond me.

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