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This might come as a shock to you, but those are people just like you.
They're still worth saving even if they aren't from your country.
You'll understand when you're older, maybe.
I love when you lemmings end your shit with “maybe when you’re older” like as if you’re some all knowing creature because you’re old as shit (boomer).
Maybe when you’re older you’ll learn to leave people the fuck alone that want to be left alone. We’ve tried world building enough. The Soviets, the British and the US. How many dead Middle Eastern people will it take before your colonial ass realizes it’s not what they want.
They’re only worth saving if they want to be saved. Keep worrying about your $1 food, I’ve got bigger things to be worried about that don’t involve making kids terrified of clear blue skies.
Gods, I'm probably going to regret this, but...
I agree with your overall point, but the unempathetic way you're expressing it is really off-putting to me. For example...
People say things like this all the time about problems that don't affect them and that they can't control (some other examples are homelessness, addiction, etc.). It always strikes me as being super uncaring and cold. No one's asking you to help them directly or to let it spoil your day or whatever -- but it takes absolutely zero effort to just briefly recognize systemic problems like these. In fact, I think it's important that we do so. Why? Because that shit could happen here as well. That 6th-grade girl could be me, or my nibling, or my neighbor, and there but for the grace of god go I. (It's an expression, I'm not being religious here.)
Yeah, yeah I know "thoughts and prayers" and all that noise, but I think it's more than that. There are oppressive religious entities here where I live in the US. Seeing what this leads to ... nothing we can do to stop it, right. And FFS the US sending our military to try to fix anything is absolutely ... "colonial" is a good term for it, as you said. Even non-military intervention, like when we send politicians to Latin American countries to lecture them on instability that we created. So wack.
But I can at least recognize the humanity here, and what it must feel like to get one of those girls. It doesn't really constitute "worry" to just care about another person and to express that.
They don't want to be "saved"
Really? You speak for all of them?
Obviously not for all, but demonstrably for the majority
What about the ones who you don't speak for?
What about them?
Are they worth saving?
That depends on what you mean by saving
Lol. It didn't "depend on what I mean by saving" when you said "they don't all want to be saved."
Whatever you meant by saving, it's obvious that most Afghans don't want that kind of intervention.
Do you even know what you meant yourself?
"What about the ones you don't speak for? Are they worth saving?"
Starting to think you're a bad troll, lol.
Why don't you answer the question
Because you already have an answer. You said "not all of them want to be saved." I said "what about the ones who do want to be saved?" And now you're like "what does saving mean?"
Dude, just go with what you thought it meant in your first reply! Lol.
If you can't do that, then you admit you're a troll. It really is that simple.
I assumed you meant some kind of military intervention in Afghanistan, if that is what you meant then no, they are not worth saving.
The linked article suggests otherwise.
The linked article, like the vast majority of articles about Afghanistan, exclusively covers Kabul.
So the people in Kabul are not Afghan?
Go troll somewhere else
How am I trolling when you're the one claiming the people in Kabul don't count as Afghan?
Your reading comprehension is lacking, I never claimed such a thing. I talked about the majority of Afghanis and the vast majority of them to not live in Kabul.
You said nothing about the majority of Afghans (Afghani is a currency). Here is our entire conversation, starting with the comment I replied to:
I'm not sure what the point of this attempt at gaslighting is.
True, I confused you with a different comment chain. Doesn't change the bad-faith nature of your comments though
How is my responding directly to what you said, on-topic, bad faith?
Yeah I got the threads mixed up, sorry about that.