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[-] derf82@lemmy.world 40 points 9 months ago

Pick your battles, people. Insisting that trans women be allowed to compete in women’s sports is just not a winning argument, even among people that might be willing to otherwise oppose other trans restrictions. All it does in reinforce anti-trans attitudes.

This isn’t some invented fiction. Here is a trans powerlifter that just came in and started shattering records.

[-] CasualPenguin@reddthat.com 19 points 9 months ago

Let's just leave behind some human beings from being allowed to participate in life, why even let them be in society at all, maybe they should be sent away for the convenience of picking political battles

[-] Demuniac@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Sometimes you make a decision in life that affects your future in a meaningful way. Becoming a trans is one of those things. Sadly there's no good solution to the problem it causes in sports right now so the only possible answer is to not have them in the competition.

They are not saying to leave them behind, and comparing this to not participating in life is an unfair exaggeration. The situation is far too complicated for that. It's not just about politics here, there's other people involved that would be put at a disadvantage, others that would abuse the situation to gain money, etc.

And yes, I'm well aware of the injustice being done to trans people on every possible level, and that needs to change, this battle itself though is just not the same.

*Edit: I'm reading further down that this "problem" it causes might not be as big as I heard it was in the media. So take this comment with that in mind if you will. It only proves the complexity of the issue though.

[-] AnimePhantasm@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago

Except there is no choice involved. Its not "becoming trans" anymore than its "becoming tall" or "becoming gay". Those are all things you are born with. Now a trans person may choose to medically transition or not; they are still trans either way. "Trans" and "cis" are adjectives and both are things you are born with regardless of what you do about it.

[-] Demuniac@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Of course that's not what I mean. You're missing the entire point of my post because of the way I describe the moment of the procedure itself.

[-] Demuniac@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Also, what you are saying applies to the individual. For the government, and for things such as these sporting events, they will not 'be' female until they undergo their transformation.

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