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"Both parties are the same!"
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I think that the majority of people have a fair moral compass or at least feel that they want less Government meddling in their life?
The fact that Republicans are not winning many elections lately suggests otherwise. Most people want things like social security and medicare. Many of us want a stronger IRS to go after tax fraud. Many more of us want universal healthcare. All of that is government "meddling."
Social Security is a Ponzi scheme. Why would you need a stronger IRS if people were allowed to decided where to invest their own money? The return on the money put in to SS is minuscule compare to a standard safe investment. You wouldn't need Universal Healthcare if you could afford things on your own, you could decide on a better insurance, because there would be competition, prices would be driven down and not up. Things only get more expensive when Government gets involved.
Your opinions are noted. However, that doesn't mean most people share your views like you seem to think. Again, if they did, a lot more Republicans would be elected.
I think people don't know there is any other option that the two party. I also think that a lot of that stems from BS Media. I do not understand the correlation you are making between my views and more elected Republicans?
Do you have any evidence that people don't know any other options? Could it be that they just don't like the option you like? Not knowing any other options doesn't change the fact that there are only two viable options right now anyway.
And if you don't understand what 'small government' and Republicans have to do with one another, it's weird that you just spouted a bunch of their talking points (like the lie that Social Security is a Ponzi scheme).
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2023/may/05/ron-johnson/sen-ron-johnson-again-says-social-security-is-a-po/
https://billmoyers.com/story/resurrecting-another-big-lie-myth-social-security-ponzi-scheme/
https://www.factcheck.org/2017/10/cruz-social-security-ponzi-scheme/
(I'm guessing you won't read those links or will dismiss them because they will challenge your Republican talking point.)
Oh, and if universal healthcare is more expensive than our current capitalist insurance-based system, please explain:
I do not believe Republicans want a small Government, maybe that was the original idea, but they have strayed far from it. R's and D's are the same party, just with different talking points. My viewpoints are from a Libertarian standpoint. US spends twice because of the Government involvement. I think it's just really crazy to believe that people would not want control over their own lives and money.
What you do not believe is noted. Feel free to demonstrate that Republicans do not want small government. Also, please provide evidence that the U.S. spends far more than Canada, which has universal healthcare, because of government involvement. You do know Canada's healthcare system is government-run, I take it.
Believe it or not, just declaring things doesn't make them true.
I agree on the "just declaring" statement. Instead of trying to convince you of maybe just taking a look at the Libertarian party, I digress. I do not need to spend the time or effort on charts, pulling articles, debating viewpoints, etc. Please continue on the current path that we all see is benefitting everyone so well. Good Day, I apologize for any upsets.
I know all about the Libertarian party. They run in every election. They lose in every election by a vast amount. Which suggests that most people don't agree with them. You have no evidence to the contrary and you didn't back up your spurious healthcare claim or, as I suspected, respond to the links I gave you about your false Republican talking point, and it is a Republican talking point, that Social Security is a Ponzi scheme. What you should be apologizing for is being so discourteous that you won't even acknowledge I provided you with evidence to counter your claim.
I'm only apologizing due to the fact I'm engaging with someone who truly believes they are on the correct path and there is no convincing otherwise. I do not need to re-read charts, articles, etc to know that we are headed in the wrong direction.
You're right.
Right about...?
Whatever it is to make you feel like you've won this disagreement.
I don't even know what you mean by "won" and I doubt you'll define it for me since you won't do another simple thing I've requested of you without me asking multiple times.
You're "apologizing" without acknowledge I provided you with evidence to counter your claim. Three different links.
False apology not accepted.
Wow, why did you delete your original reply? I read it before you changed it to this reply. I agree, you do not have to accept any apology. Good Day.
I deleted it because I did not say what I wanted to say. I also deleted it within seconds of writing it. It's not my fault you hit refresh that often.
And I would be happy to accept a sincere apology. You know, one where you actually acknowledge the fact that you pretended I didn't provide you with any links to counter your claim.
But I suppose that's too honest for you, so you're running away instead.
I don't really know how I saw it that fast to be honest. Yes, you provided links. I've read many of the same. I realized I was only ruffling your feathers and this was going to go nowhere. And instead of continual agitation, I decided its not worth it. I'm not try to argue, I just think there is another way than the path we are on.
Weird that it's taken you this long to acknowledge it even though I've pointed out that you haven't multiple times.
And yet you did not do anything to support your claim that Social Security is a Ponzi scheme. This is because it is not a Ponzi scheme.
Ah, so you're a troll. Noted. Flagging.
Ok.