811
4th person pronoun? (startrek.website)
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 28 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You can have an alternate third person pronoun I suppose in order to distinguish two third person individuals, but that doesn't mean there's a fourth person pronoun. The general definition is:

  • first person - the speaker
  • second person - the audience, whether present or not present
  • third person - someone or something other than the audience

So things like "chat" and "breaking the fourth wall" are second person pronouns. There is no fourth person pronoun, because anything other than first and second is covered under third person.

[-] lugal@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago
[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago

That still sounds like a special type of third person, though I guess that's just disagreeing about terminology.

[-] lugal@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

I see why you would analyze it that way but I also see that it deserves a term in its own rights. As you said, it's all terminology. There are no objective definitions, at least not in linguistics

[-] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Isn't 'chat' essentially treated as a name, except that it refers to a group of people instead of an individual?

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

I think you're right, and the pronoun for it would be the second person plural (you in English).

[-] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Yes that makes sense

this post was submitted on 21 Dec 2023
811 points (100.0% liked)

People Twitter

7413 readers
1512 users here now

People tweeting stuff. We allow tweets from anyone.

RULES:

  1. Mark NSFW content.
  2. No doxxing people.
  3. Must be a pic of the tweet or similar. No direct links to the tweet.
  4. No bullying or international politcs
  5. Be excellent to each other.
  6. Provide an archived link to the tweet (or similar) being shown if it's a major figure or a politician.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS