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Elon Musk: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)
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You should calm down a bit.
I didn't say the spaceX was the first.
What rocket is more reliable? I may be wrong, but it wasn't a lie. Can't you just argue in good faith?
Neither I or the video claimed it was the first reusable rocket. I didn't claim it was the first commercial space company. I didn't claim it was the first vertically landing rocket.
Could you link it? I am interested in reading it.
I don't remember where I read that the SRBs were hard to clean but it makes a lot of sense because engines are complicated and salt water is a bitch.
I would be happy to be proved wrong though. As long as you calm down.
Lol. I thought you meant some kind of impressive system. You just meant the normal crew capsules. How are those relevant?
There just seems like there is a huge difference between cleaning an SRB and a fairing... I didn't have a "problem" with it. It's just that I have heard that the shuttle SRBs were hard to clean.
Yeah, no. Sure a few other rockets were also partly reusable but that doesn't make it a copy.
It's called an improvement.
I am all for improvements but if you want everything to be stuck in first iterations then go ahead.
Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't make them a fan of Elon Musk.
Have you ever tried having an argument without attacking the opponent?
I'll cut this very short, because you people talk out both sides of your mouth.
How about this. If you're attempting to "argue in good faith", then try researching something before you write it down. That's probably a good start in "good faith" debate, right? You want to make statements, without researching them, and then get bent out of shape when I call you out on it and say I'm not arguing in good faith.
Like. Do you not see the hypocrisy with that?
... YOU BROUGHT UP RUSSIAN CAPSULES. You tell me. Holy hell.
Seems? So, your opinion based on absolutely nothing but a guess is that it seems like it's hard to do. And again, you talk about arguing in good faith when I even told you NASA publishes their SRB refurbishment documentation. Why, if you wanted to argue in good faith, didn't you go look for that document? Surely that's step one in an actual good faith debate, no? Learning about the topic?
Then go look at the document. In good faith
This demonstrates how little you know about the history of vehicles and launch systems. You could do an iota of reading, but instead you're here just saying whatever feels right.
Tell me, do you think Hyper Loop was an original idea or do you think it was a carbon copy of a previously debunked idiotic idea? If Hype Loop was a BS copy of an extremely old idea resurrected by con men every so often, why wouldn't Falcon be? I mean, after all, the name Falcon is awfully close the DARPA's FALCON project, which started just a few years before Elon started hiring people for SpaceX. Everything the guy does is a cheap knock off of something someone else has already done.
Anyway, go ahead and look up those refurbishment documents, since you're so dedicated to good faith debate. Maybe when you're done reading them you'll realize why people that come through here just making up their own answers based on their feelings is annoying.
No I just want to have an argument without constant insults and language from a 5 year old. Grow up dude.
You brought up capsules at all, lol. Are you drunk or something 😂
I don't care about the hyper loop. I really don't care about old DARPA projects. The interesting part about the Falcon 9 is that it actually exists and does its job extremely well.
You haven't provided me with anything that actually matters, all you have done is whine at Musk. Like who cares if it's somewhat reusable rockets existed before the Falcon 9. The Falcon 9 objectively made it much more efficient and has done a lot of improvements that no one has done before.
I don't like Musk either, but I don't have to deny reality just because I have a hate boner.
I'm pretty convinced by your lack of looking up the actual NASA documentation, which is freely available, and your hypocritical call for "good faith" argument, that you're an un-serious person here just to support your favorite fraudster billionaire.
An obvious lie, since there's no other way to explain your complete refusal to go look up a basic fact instead of repeating marketing nonsense.
So, at this point I'm back to you being a liar since you have to intentionally choose not to know what you're talking about and instead base your position on vibes. I'm uninterested in your opinion, you've demonstrated your inability to use facts, so we're pretty well done here.