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Elon Musk: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)
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That's a lie. Tons of people say this EXACT thing.
Incorrect. Russia was reusing rockets back in the 1950s for atmospheric research. Stop doing Musk's marketing for him.
Also a lie. I'm not even here saying Falcon is some unreliable POS. I simply pointed out that it wasn't the first reusable rocket, it's not the first commercial space company, and it's not the first vertically landing rocket. Now here you are coming up with all this other bullshit nobody's talking about. I wonder why someone would come to this thread and make up arguments to defend against if not to simp for Musk himself.
Please detail for the class what "significant" means and how long the process was. Keep in mind I have seen NASA's public documentation on the refurbishment. Also, again, SHUTTLE WAS COMPLETELY REUSABLE.
You've lost track of your own chain of thought, so I guess I'd say go back and re-read your comment. Then recall that before Shuttle existed, the US used a capsule system.
Yet you had a problem with shuttle SRB being cleaned. Hmm. Interesting double standard there.
I don't know, do people have to repeat the same SpaceX lies or jerk elon off every time someone mentions anything tangentially related to space? Seems so.
SpaceX is a literal fucking copy of several previous systems as described in the 1960s. I understand that space history starts in 2006 for most of you Musk fans, but wow.
I'll cut this very short, because you people talk out both sides of your mouth.
How about this. If you're attempting to "argue in good faith", then try researching something before you write it down. That's probably a good start in "good faith" debate, right? You want to make statements, without researching them, and then get bent out of shape when I call you out on it and say I'm not arguing in good faith.
Like. Do you not see the hypocrisy with that?
... YOU BROUGHT UP RUSSIAN CAPSULES. You tell me. Holy hell.
Seems? So, your opinion based on absolutely nothing but a guess is that it seems like it's hard to do. And again, you talk about arguing in good faith when I even told you NASA publishes their SRB refurbishment documentation. Why, if you wanted to argue in good faith, didn't you go look for that document? Surely that's step one in an actual good faith debate, no? Learning about the topic?
Then go look at the document. In good faith
This demonstrates how little you know about the history of vehicles and launch systems. You could do an iota of reading, but instead you're here just saying whatever feels right.
Tell me, do you think Hyper Loop was an original idea or do you think it was a carbon copy of a previously debunked idiotic idea? If Hype Loop was a BS copy of an extremely old idea resurrected by con men every so often, why wouldn't Falcon be? I mean, after all, the name Falcon is awfully close the DARPA's FALCON project, which started just a few years before Elon started hiring people for SpaceX. Everything the guy does is a cheap knock off of something someone else has already done.
Anyway, go ahead and look up those refurbishment documents, since you're so dedicated to good faith debate. Maybe when you're done reading them you'll realize why people that come through here just making up their own answers based on their feelings is annoying.
I'm pretty convinced by your lack of looking up the actual NASA documentation, which is freely available, and your hypocritical call for "good faith" argument, that you're an un-serious person here just to support your favorite fraudster billionaire.
An obvious lie, since there's no other way to explain your complete refusal to go look up a basic fact instead of repeating marketing nonsense.
So, at this point I'm back to you being a liar since you have to intentionally choose not to know what you're talking about and instead base your position on vibes. I'm uninterested in your opinion, you've demonstrated your inability to use facts, so we're pretty well done here.