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US senators have urged the DOJ to probe Apple's alleged anti-competitive conduct against Beeper.

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[-] JoeCoT@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago

Because their practices are anti-competitive. School kids are getting bullied for using Android phones because they're "green texters" in iMessage. But most importantly iMessage's connection with SMS causes all interaction to be very low quality images and videos. And when people complain to Tim Apple about the experience, his only response is "Get your grandma an iPhone". Our only saving grace is that the EU is requiring Apple to support RCS, which should solve these issues, except they'll probably find some new way to be anti-competitive about it.

[-] Dippy@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

How is creating a proprietary service anti competitive? There are many other methods of messaging and Apple is not stoping anyone from using them.

Kids being bullied in school has nothing to do with being anti competitive.

[-] bamboo 7 points 2 years ago

Apple is not stoping anyone from using them.

You can't change your default messenger on iOS, so they're not making it easy to stop using iMessage completely.

[-] Dippy@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

You can turn off iMessage in settings and disable the phone number from messages. Then use whatever messaging service you want with the phone number.

Still not sure how it’s anti competitive to not allow others to use your own proprietary software when there are alternatives available, and they are not being restricted.

[-] bamboo 3 points 2 years ago

TIL, I did not think it was possible to use SMS with another app on iOS.

[-] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

I don't think you can use a different app for SMS on iOS. Messages only.

But u can disable iMessage functionality (iMessage is the network-based instant messenger component).

[-] GrayBoltWolf@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

There’s a toggle to turn off iMessage, and the phone asks you when you set it up if you want to use iMessage or not.

[-] bamboo 1 points 2 years ago

But will you still receive SMS messages in the iMessage app? AFAIK, there's no way to move SMS to another app, like Whatsapp, and delete iMessage from the phone completely.

[-] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You won't receive SMS in the "iMessage app". Messages is the iOS messaging app, it has the ability to send messages via SMS or iMessage.

If the iMessage service is enabled and the recipient has an iMessage address/account, it'll send the message via iMessage. Otherwise Messages falls back to sending a message via SMS.

I know, we don't usually make a distinction about Messages the app, and iMessage the service, and just say iMessage.

[-] DirigibleProtein@aussie.zone 9 points 2 years ago

School kids are getting bullied for using Android phones

That’s a people problem, not a market-share problem. From experience, kids will always find something to bully others about — if it’s not the colour of the bubbles, it’s something else: the brand of shoes they wear, the suburb they live in, the sport they play (or don’t play). Bullies will do what they do.

[-] rizoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Apple should 100 percent support RCS and Tim's "buy your grandma an iphone" response was stupid and does show that they don't give a shit. However the Beeper situation is something different entirely, if the reports I've read are too be believed it was a security vulnerability or a blatant disregard of apples terms. Also the kids being bullied thing is very overblown, and almost certainly a regional thing. I live in buttfuck no where and I not one kid gives a shit they just want to talk to their friends. My kid has an android and his friend group is like 50/50 on iPhones. Its weird adults and parents who inadvertently say things or give their children the idea that green bubbles are bed. Kids don't give a fuck unless they've learned it somewhere.

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

Kids don't use imessage, they're on fucking discord

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