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[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 25 points 10 months ago

The total fees for out of province students will still be lower than for out of province students in other provinces.

The fees for international students will still be lower than the fees for international students in other provinces.

In the only province where French is the only official language, French universities received less financing than English universities no matter the source, including from the provincial government. Donating to one's Alma Mater isn't part of the French Canadian culture for a ton of historical reasons, that leads to an university like McGill getting 200m$ from a single ex student and having over a billion sleeping in its coffers while the Université du Québec en Outaouais barely manages to offer basic services to its students.

Is it such a bad thing that the government asks that foreign students integrate themselves by learning the local language? That's an incentive for them to stay and it prevents the issue of having some of them stay without being able to speak the language, pretty much forcing them to live in one of three urban areas and their suburbs (Montreal, Gatineau, Sherbrooke).

[-] Marsupial@quokk.au 17 points 10 months ago

Imagine calling your fellow countrymen foreigners.

[-] force@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

They are foreign though, literally. They are from a different province, plus a very different culture. There isn't much that separates someone from Alberta from someone from Montana or Massachussetts in that case, other than a passport.

[-] Marsupial@quokk.au 11 points 10 months ago

So?

My neighbour is of a different culture than me, yet I don’t think of them as a foreigner.

I could cross the state border and find someone of a different culture in a different state with different laws, they’re still not a foreigner.

[-] force@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I mean you can Google the word "foreign" and the first thing that shows up is:

of, from, in, or characteristic of a country or language other than one's own.

of or belonging to another district or area.

And Wiktionary gives:

Located outside a country or place, especially one's own.

Originating from, characteristic of, belonging to, or being a citizen of a country or place other than the one under discussion. 

Most Québécois are primarily francophones, while the rest of Canada are anglophones, it checks that box. And obviously Québec is a different district/area than not Québec. And someome from outside of Québec is of course from a different place, both being a different province and a completely different sometimes almost unrecognizable culture.

Idk man seems pretty reasonable to call them "foreign" seeing as how they're from a different province. Plus "foreign" is a good catch-all word for anyone who isn't from the jurisdiction.

Also yes if you go into another state you are foreign to that state. Not foreign country-wise, but foreign state-wise.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago

Heck, 100 years ago someone from four villages over was considered a foreigner...

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago

See there's this thing we call "a definition" and that word is appropriate to the situation and if you think "foreigner" is pejorative then you're the one who's got an issue...

[-] Marsupial@quokk.au 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yeah totally, it’s not at all a well-known derogatory term used to other people’s.

Honestly if this is how French Canadians act, I totally get the reputation. Sounds like a bunch of downright exclusionary shit cunts.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago

"Oh no, French Canadians use words in their second language based on their definition, what a bunch of exclusionary shit cunts!"

You should really go sit down and reflect on the way you just acted.

[-] C126@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

French is a dead language, just admit it and move on with your lives already Quebec.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

More and more people speak it on a global scale, you shouldn't celebrate the disappearance of non English cultures.

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