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How is this shitty? Windows 7 isn't even supported by Microsoft anymore.
If you were looking to preserve games for playing on old computers, you chose the wrong platform.
because there are games that people fucking own that don't run on newer platforms, that they should still be allowed to fucking play and not have defacto taken away from them?
How is that hard to understand?
I swear to god the absolute short sightedness of gamers. If this prevented you from playing one of your games you'd be here spewing shit and fire and brimstone over it.
Expecting Valve to support an operating system that the creator of the OS doesn't even support isn't tenable. How much longer should Valve be forced to support Windows XP by that logic?
Valve sold games on steam that only run on XP via its digital download service
It should support XP with a legacy downloader for as long as people want to play their XP games on XP.
This shouldnt even be a controversial opinion, Y'all are whats wrong with modern gaming and why its become such a festering cesspit of microtransactions and theft.
How about you start supporting stores that actually do that?
Chances are you don't even know about them. And you call us short-sighted.
Don't LEASE digital games on a DRM platform then be surprised when it doesn't work forever on outdated software that isn't even supported by the original creator.
No one owns these games and pretending you do is just setting yourself up for disappointment.
The ferocity at which people white knight companies that dont give a single fuck about them is staggering.
I can't believe a Lemmy user is trying to explain why we still need companies to support Windows 7 of all things.
Why not put your energy towards something with more preservation value, like getting these games to run on free operating systems like Linux?
Is Proton not an option for any of these games you need Windows 7 for?
And now we turn to the unbridled arrogance against retrogaming on the original hardware/software, now that your corpo dick sucking has failed.
You're the one trying to keep Windows 7 alive and commercially viable.
And if you want to really get off topic to "original hardware/software", I'm a big advocate for FPGA replacing original hardware for most users. The MiSTer and similar projects are real preservation and very much not "corpo dick sucking".
"I'm not corpo dick sucking, now why don't you go buy a 500+ dollar device from one of the companies selling it instead of doing your filthy peasant retrogaming"
The DE-10 nano is sold by Intel typically at a loss to assist with educational endeavors. The retro gaming community just kind of adopted the platform due to its cheap nature.
I think the MiSTer is the exact opposite of what you're saying. It's a corporation essentially subsidizing video game preservation for a period of time.
MiSTer is also open source software and hardware.
Again, you're the one buying digital games on steam and calling others corporate dick suckers. You're the one funding it without paying basic attention.
Gotta blame anyone but the corpo master, huh?
I'd rather blame the customer who keeps buying from the corporation but claims some moral high ground over the company.
Put your money where your mouth is. This isn't the first time Steam has dropped support for an Operating System and you're acting like this is some new revelation.
If you're so against what these corporations are doing, stop giving them so much money. I'm not sure how much more you can glaze a company than you already have with your wallet.
Yes yes, Its all the customers fault.
All the blame should be on the customers, We should never try to hold the blessed companies accountable or criticize them in any way for their behavior, because it is the filthy customers fault for it all.
afterall, the customers just downright refuse to use their future sight to avoid problems, so they deserve it.
Yes yes, it's all the companies fault even when the customer refuses to read the terms of service or acknowledge the company's history of similar moves.
If you really cared, there are other platforms you could be using.
Anything to avoid personal responsibility.
Your comments read like someone who eats at McDonald's and then blames them for being overweight.
Thats literally what you're doing in this entire thread. "Customer should have known the coffee was hot and should have been more careful" is your entire argument.
Great projection though.
Your ability to twist comments to fit your narrative in your own head are hilarious.
Steam leases digital games with a shitty Term of Service and the ability to change their agreements at any time. You're the one blindly consuming then getting upset at the natural consequences.
Take some personal accountability for once.
I bet you'll still be buying on Steam this time next year.
Uh huh.
And now we're back to the same old "You should have known the coffee was hot, its your fault for being careless and getting burned" arguments.
Accountability for me, but not accountability for billion dollar businesses, Right?
Are you arguing it's someone else's fault if you spill hot coffee on yourself?
Where were you when Steam dropped support for every previous version of Windows? Why is windows 7 suddenly your hill to die on?
Oh, you mean like I mentioned in my first post here
And also directly in response to you here
And also talked about in response to someone else here
C'mon now. You can shift goalposts better than this.
You didn't stop buying games when they killed XP support. They announced at the begining of this year (at least by March 2023) that they were dropping windows 7 support and you still kept buying.
Why do you keep doing the same thing but expecting a different outcome?
Stop spending money at places you claim are anti consumer. You are the problem. You. There are other companies you could support but you want to keep funding Steam while crying victim.
All this because I said valve should have a legacy downloader so people can still play the things they bought that dont work on modern OS's.
Something that would cost valve, a multibillion dollar company, almost nothing in the grand scheme of things.
But apparently caused so much offense, that you've sat here clawing your hair out at the sheer audaciousness the comment.
You really need to go outside and take a few calming breaths and realize how fucked up it is that you are this defensive over criticism of a company that doesnt give a single shit about you.
He says, as he defends why people should be forced to continue support for his preferred operating system corporation.
Yes yes, a legacy downloader that doesnt effect you, is such an egregious and evil thing and totally deserving of this crazy, borderline mental illness reaction you've sustained.
And upgrading windows affects you how? It's a free upgrade isn't it?
Doesn't windows 8 have legacy compatibility modes? Why aren't you upset with Microsoft for not having proper compatibility modes still?
Why is Valve the target of your anger when Microsoft is the one deprecating the OS and not providing the compatibility they advertise?
And now we're to the point where you keep repeating the same arguments and demanding the same answers, in an attempt to make the other person walk away so you claim a pathetic "win" and strut around like a high street cock.
I've been on the internet a long time, friend. Your tactics are not clever, or new.
I haven't asked why you wouldn't upgrade before, nor about the broken compatibility features included with Windows.
Direct your anger at the company causing your issues (Microsoft), not the one that hurt you because you couldn't figure out hardware acceleration with remote play.
Yes, I'm clearly the one full of anger here.
It shows in your dozen posts refusing to take any of the many available paths forward.
Roblox runs on the latest windows, you'll be fine.
Of course, The many forked paths of "valve should have a legacy downloader".
How silly am I to miss all of them.
It truly is the consumers fault, afterall. /s
What about
and now we're circling back to already asked and answered shit
are you okay?
If you are this forgetful may I suggest discussing it with your doctor, and possibly scheduling a brain scan?
You never answered why you blame Microsoft and not Steam.
You fed the troll way too much.
If you purchase something digitally - you do not own it. Especially not on steam. You are purchasing the rights to play it while it's supported.
The best you can do is buy DRM free and download it and save it in your own storage if you want to be able to play your game when you are 85.
How is it hard to understand for you that with Steam, you chose the wrong platform to play old games?
How hard is it to understand, for YOU, that steam has been around since the XP era, and that maybe people bought those games when they were new?
Obviously pretty fucking hard, since you cant even seem to comprehend it.
Once again, you chose the wrong platform with Steam. Other stores have been around at that time too.
I suppose I will have to repeat this for you a couple more times.
Slick blaming of the customers there for not being psychic and being able to see the future.
Anything to defend your precious corpo, huh
No need to be a psychic if you can parse basic terms of service. At least I hope for your sake you're capable of doing that.
And that's how we know you're out of points to make. Must suck if that's the only comeback you have against people who aren't defending anyone.
"how dare you call me out for defending the corporation when all i'm doing is viciously trying to attack you and shift the blame to you for your mild criticism of them!"