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submitted 11 months ago by Limonene@lemmy.world to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world

2024 is the Year of Linux on the Desktop, at least for my boyfriend. He's running Windows 7 right now, so I'll be switching him to Ubuntu in a few days. Ubuntu was chosen because Proton is officially supported in Ubuntu.

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[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It might not fuck over people as bad as their abandoning XP did, but its still really fucking shitty that they abandon OS's like this.

Simply because it means people who have games they used to be able to play on old machines, now cant get those games anymore, cause the service itself wont run on it on those machines.

They should at least fork off a special legacy version that lets people download their old games on their original platforms.

but they dont want to do that, not because of supporting it, because they dont want people to remember how sleek, slim, and fast steam used to be.

[-] HKayn@dormi.zone 31 points 11 months ago

How is this shitty? Windows 7 isn't even supported by Microsoft anymore.

If you were looking to preserve games for playing on old computers, you chose the wrong platform.

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

because there are games that people fucking own that don't run on newer platforms, that they should still be allowed to fucking play and not have defacto taken away from them?

How is that hard to understand?

I swear to god the absolute short sightedness of gamers. If this prevented you from playing one of your games you'd be here spewing shit and fire and brimstone over it.

[-] PrettyLights@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago

Expecting Valve to support an operating system that the creator of the OS doesn't even support isn't tenable. How much longer should Valve be forced to support Windows XP by that logic?

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Valve sold games on steam that only run on XP via its digital download service

It should support XP with a legacy downloader for as long as people want to play their XP games on XP.

This shouldnt even be a controversial opinion, Y'all are whats wrong with modern gaming and why its become such a festering cesspit of microtransactions and theft.

[-] HKayn@dormi.zone 8 points 11 months ago

How about you start supporting stores that actually do that?

Chances are you don't even know about them. And you call us short-sighted.

[-] PrettyLights@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Don't LEASE digital games on a DRM platform then be surprised when it doesn't work forever on outdated software that isn't even supported by the original creator.

No one owns these games and pretending you do is just setting yourself up for disappointment.

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

The ferocity at which people white knight companies that dont give a single fuck about them is staggering.

[-] PrettyLights@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

I can't believe a Lemmy user is trying to explain why we still need companies to support Windows 7 of all things.

Why not put your energy towards something with more preservation value, like getting these games to run on free operating systems like Linux?

Is Proton not an option for any of these games you need Windows 7 for?

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

And now we turn to the unbridled arrogance against retrogaming on the original hardware/software, now that your corpo dick sucking has failed.

[-] PrettyLights@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

You're the one trying to keep Windows 7 alive and commercially viable.

And if you want to really get off topic to "original hardware/software", I'm a big advocate for FPGA replacing original hardware for most users. The MiSTer and similar projects are real preservation and very much not "corpo dick sucking".

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

"I'm not corpo dick sucking, now why don't you go buy a 500+ dollar device from one of the companies selling it instead of doing your filthy peasant retrogaming"

[-] PrettyLights@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

The DE-10 nano is sold by Intel typically at a loss to assist with educational endeavors. The retro gaming community just kind of adopted the platform due to its cheap nature.

I think the MiSTer is the exact opposite of what you're saying. It's a corporation essentially subsidizing video game preservation for a period of time.

MiSTer is also open source software and hardware.

Again, you're the one buying digital games on steam and calling others corporate dick suckers. You're the one funding it without paying basic attention.

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Again, you’re the one buying digital games on steam and calling others corporate dick suckers.

Gotta blame anyone but the corpo master, huh?

[-] PrettyLights@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I'd rather blame the customer who keeps buying from the corporation but claims some moral high ground over the company.

Put your money where your mouth is. This isn't the first time Steam has dropped support for an Operating System and you're acting like this is some new revelation.

If you're so against what these corporations are doing, stop giving them so much money. I'm not sure how much more you can glaze a company than you already have with your wallet.

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yes yes, Its all the customers fault.

All the blame should be on the customers, We should never try to hold the blessed companies accountable or criticize them in any way for their behavior, because it is the filthy customers fault for it all.

afterall, the customers just downright refuse to use their future sight to avoid problems, so they deserve it.

[-] PrettyLights@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Yes yes, it's all the companies fault even when the customer refuses to read the terms of service or acknowledge the company's history of similar moves.

If you really cared, there are other platforms you could be using.

Anything to avoid personal responsibility.

Your comments read like someone who eats at McDonald's and then blames them for being overweight.

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[-] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

You fed the troll way too much.

[-] citrusface@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

If you purchase something digitally - you do not own it. Especially not on steam. You are purchasing the rights to play it while it's supported.

The best you can do is buy DRM free and download it and save it in your own storage if you want to be able to play your game when you are 85.

[-] HKayn@dormi.zone 3 points 11 months ago

How is it hard to understand for you that with Steam, you chose the wrong platform to play old games?

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

How hard is it to understand, for YOU, that steam has been around since the XP era, and that maybe people bought those games when they were new?

Obviously pretty fucking hard, since you cant even seem to comprehend it.

[-] HKayn@dormi.zone 2 points 11 months ago

Once again, you chose the wrong platform with Steam. Other stores have been around at that time too.

I suppose I will have to repeat this for you a couple more times.

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Slick blaming of the customers there for not being psychic and being able to see the future.

Anything to defend your precious corpo, huh

[-] HKayn@dormi.zone 1 points 11 months ago

No need to be a psychic if you can parse basic terms of service. At least I hope for your sake you're capable of doing that.

Anything to defend your precious corpo, huh

And that's how we know you're out of points to make. Must suck if that's the only comeback you have against people who aren't defending anyone.

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[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Did you know that Steam didn't even run on DOS?

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