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[-] bigFab@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
[-] Happybara@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago

Tolerance is just an extension of the social contract. Intolerant people are actively violating the social contract and, as such, are not eligible for the benefits such a contract provides. This has been settled law for millennia. Live and let live... or else.

[-] bigFab@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The problem is ppl disagree on what represents tolerance. i.e: letting a trans compete in sport can be tolerance of gender diversity, while at the same time intolerance of competition rules.

Sometimes one cannot know what is someone fighting intolerance gonna end up doing. Germans had been too tolerant of jewish wealthy elite until nazis had enough of it. Hitler was democratically elected and crimes begun only after that.

[-] Anti_Iridium@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago
[-] bigFab@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I didn't know this specifics, but after reading that I'm still waiting further explanation. Each party had own guerilla and wikipedia didn't mention especially bloody SA behaviour.

2000 SA vs 130 police = deads 15 vs 4 is a pretty normal protest clash outcome. I believe they killed also some more jews, but from that to a concentration camp there is a difference.

[-] voidMainVoid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

letting a trans compete in sport can be tolerance of gender diversity, while at the same time intolerance of competition rules.

Oh no! Won't somebody think of the rules?!

Rules don't have rights. People do. When the rules don't respect people's rights, then the rules have to change.

[-] Cannacheques@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 years ago

Meh, I'm not a Nazi so no offense taken.

[-] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's kind of like pest control. I don't hate termites. I just can't have them tearing up my home, so they have to be exterminated.

[-] voidMainVoid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

How is this relevant to the post

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

That’s just something the ignorant say

If you try to get rid of intolerance then you will find they out number you and it will lead to a more intolerant society

You have to limit the ability for it to spread by expanding education and publicly engage with them to challenge their ideas so that others can see the faults in their logic

The worst thing you can do is force them into their own communities, something social media promotes, because then intolerance grows

[-] petrol_sniff_king 4 points 2 years ago

publicly engage with them to challenge their ideas so that others can see the faults in their logic

Yes, but you want to be careful you're not lending legitimacy to their movement, either. If it's a fringe, wacko idea, it shouldn't be on NBC.

But yeah, inoculating people against the kinds of arguments they make is good work.

[-] voidMainVoid@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

This is actually what Karl Popper said if you read the entire quote. This comic cut out that part.

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