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I'm not trying to convince anyone to go back i promise, quite the contrary actually cause I think spez plans to just decrease the cost of the API and act like it was a bargain deal sacrifice while not solving any of the issues at all

But, when I think about it even if spez did actually listen and reverse all changes I don't think i want to go back to Reddit cause from what Ive seen Lemmy is just friendlier and less :Be Corporate Friendly: I would honestly love it if Lemmy did a project like r/place one of these days so we could see what the internet is actually like instead of what happened in 2022 (I really did enjoy what a bunch of communities did but when the mods started abusing their powers to make it corporate r/place lost so much meaning) but i am curious since i'm not going back is there anything Reddit can do to make you go back to Reddit?

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[-] Googleproof@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm still using it because old.reddit.com still works, and until it doesn't, I probably will. That said, I'd rather the fediverse thrive than the increasingly corporate-beholden reddit does, so I'll favour what sparse engagement I make to a lemmy instance first.

I think what's hardest to replace from reddit is the absolutely monstrous archive of posts and discussions, which seems to be a bit of a two-edged sword for them (if the official statements are to be believed) - it costs a tonne in hosting, but makes them the most relevant source for real human discourse. This needs to be handled better, and ideally I'd want to see:

  • Some sort of archive.reddit.com. Minimal, flat html, ideally anonymised as much as computer-ly possible to help with the inevitable privacy issues this would raise.
  • Some sort of mobile.old.reddit.com, as they seem incapable of making an app without bloaty (both visual and bandwidth wise) "features". Call me a boomer, but if I can do something without a specific app, I would rather do it that way.
  • Separate i.reddit.com and v.reddit.com into different companies from the main reddit, reddit should be link aggregation and discussion, content hosting seems like a costly thing to try and monopolise.
  • If it really costs so much to run the APIs, I'd rather see more user-based rate limiting than price gouging to discourage bad actors. I do not think that is why they are price gouging, but am trying to assume good faith on their part for discussions' sake.

I know I'm an idiot, and some of these are possibly already done and I just haven't looked hard enough, probably some are impossible for obvious reasons I haven't seen. Though even if reddit as a company turned around and tried to become a curator of the discussions it holds rather than milk it's current audience dry with ads, I'd still rather see lemmy out-compete it. Protocol > Platform.

[-] surrendertogravity@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Re: an archive - if you have the hard drive space, there's a ~2 TB torrent of PushShift's Reddit backup from 2005 to 12/22, with Jan, Feb, and March 2023 up on Internet Archive.

I haven't looked too deeply for tooling to interface with the data yet (compressed json) but I expect it's mostly focused on machine learning or large data analysis, rather than browsing and searching. Still, with so many 10+ year users doing the "overwrite and delete your comments" combo (which will be me come June 29/30), it comforts my data-hoarding soul to even have the potential to dig into the archive for anything I might want to reference in the future.

[-] AWildMimicAppears@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Regarding the current reddit data: users from /r/datahoarders are currently creating a backup of reddit, and they are still in need of more helping hands!

[-] jherazob@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

These peeps are nuts in the best way

[-] Rentlar@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

This Reddit interface flown under the radar for most of its existence, but you might have like Reddit compact mode for mobile i.reddit.com. At least until they killed it this year like in March without so much as an announcement.

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