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US president Joe Biden said that Israel is starting to lose support due to indiscriminate bombing in Gaza amid Hamas war. The comments come after Israel prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu asserted again that US is with Israel as Tel Aviv aims to destroy Hamas and recover hostages held in Gaza.

"They're starting to lose that support," Joe Biden told a campaign fundraising event in Washington as per news agency Reuters. The US president also said that Benjamin Netanyahu needs to change his hardline government.

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[-] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago

Well, Zionism is simply the belief that a state of Israel has the right to exist in some fashion, not that it necessarily must have the maximal possible borders and be completely devoid of Arabs.

There is zero contradiction between supporting Zionism and supporting Palestinian statehood of some kind, unless you think that the only just solution is the forced elimination of all Jews from the area.

[-] Uranium3006@kbin.social 8 points 9 months ago

In pratice though, they're now the same thing. We've been seeing warning signs of genocide for decades now and nothing was done. Rhetoric Joe us doesn't sit right when the pile of dead bodies continues to grow rapidly

[-] AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

That’s not even what political zionism much less Zionism means.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

unless you think that the only just solution is the forced elimination of all Jews from the area.

No? One state for everyone is and has always been a viable solution.

[-] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

Not if you actually ask Israeli Arabs and Jews, with 17% of Israeli Arabs supporting, compared to 46% for a two-state solution. Amongst Jews, it's 10% for a liberal single state and 35% for two states (and disturbingly, 30% for a single Jew-privilged state, which I would actually call apartheid)

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/israeli-polls-regarding-peace-with-the-palestinians

Regardless, a single liberal state is desired by essentially no one.

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