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President Joe Biden goes into next year's election with a vexing challenge: Just as the U.S. economy is getting stronger, people are still feeling horrible about it.

Pollsters and economists say there has never been as wide a gap between the underlying health of the economy and public perception. The divergence could be a decisive factor in whether the Democrat secures a second term next year. Republicans are seizing on the dissatisfaction to skewer Biden, while the White House is finding less success as it tries to highlight economic progress.

“Things are getting better and people think things are going to get worse — and that’s the most dangerous piece of this," said Democratic pollster Celinda Lake, who has worked with Biden. Lake said voters no longer want to just see inflation rates fall — rather, they want an outright decline in prices, something that last happened on a large scale during the Great Depression.

“Honestly, I’m kind of mystified by it,” she said.

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[-] AlDente@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The government tells them to get their shit together or fines them. And if they fire you, you have clear evidence for a wrongful termination case. Or you can just sit back and take it like you seem to be implying.

~~Seriously, what is this "then what happens" nonsense? Are you lining up for some sort of gotcha? What happens if you don't take action? Your employer keeps taking advantage of yourself and others?~~

E: I'm sorry for the outburst. I hope you understand how one-liner questions can be seen as a troll response. I appreciate that you have more to say.

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Ok so you've never done it. That's OK, I understand that you're describing how it's supposed to work, and it's easier to blame the victims of theft for not fighting back hard enough.

But that's not what happens next.

What happens next is usually nothing. Maybe the restaurant gets a warning, or maybe the restaurant shuts down and the owners invest in a different location. If you're very lucky, there will be enough evidence for several employees to go to court as a group, and the lawyer will make a bit of money while everyone who worked there will eventually get a check for half a month's rent. If you're unlucky, the employer figures out you reported them and retaliates.

The department of labor doesn't have the resources to go after every employer stealing wages, much less investigate every report of retaliation. Employees have extremely slim chances of ever seeing a fraction of what is owed, and restaurant owners almost never have to pay what they owe. 60% of restaurants fail within a year, and that number is 80% by year five. When they fold, they don't leave behind a fund to pay out pending litigation liabilities.

[-] AlDente@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

First off, if what you are describing is based on personal experiences, then I am truly sorry that it happened to you. Secondly, what you say about victim blaming doesn't sit well with me. I feel nothing but rage towards the companies that would steal wages from their employees. My girlfriend in a past life worked at small-town Frisch's that regularly took advantage of their employees. They weren't just stiffing them on compensation for inadequate tips, they also constantly told them they had to clock out at closing time and clean up after. I hope their management rots in hell. After all, they did this just to save a few bucks for their regional restaurant chain while screwing over their own team.

My point, which I admit, was better articulated in other strings of this post, is that saying $2.13/hour is the tipping minimum wage is absolutely unacceptable. The federal minimum wage is $7.25 for everyone. If you are a tipped employee who is not making $7.25/hour after tips, your employer is stealing from you. Everyone deserves to know this, and by repeating the incorrect claim that $2.13 is somehow legally acceptable, it normalizes behavior like the theft against someone whom I had a close relationship with.

I understand that sometimes the system doesn't work as intended. I wish this wasn't the case, but what you say about groups of employees winning anything against their abusive employers gives me hope. These employers don't deserve to get away with it. However, when you say that the majority of restaurants fail within a year and the vast majority is closed within 5 years, it sounds like an argument that this behavior is somehow necessary for their survival. I don't agree with that. I believe that any company who cannot adequately compensate their employees, should not be in business. Everyone is entitled to a fair wage (but seriously, a $7.25 minimum wage is not enough to live off).

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