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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 42 points 11 months ago
[-] qyron@sopuli.xyz 80 points 11 months ago

To quote someone a lot wiser than myself:

It's a shame stupid people carry themselves through life full of certainty while the wise ones suffer a life of doubt.

[-] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 6 points 11 months ago

That's a paraphrase of a famous Bertrand Russell quote. The original is as follows; "The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt."

There's also the William Butler Yeats corollary; "The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity."

[-] anonymouse@lemmings.world 3 points 11 months ago

"Ignorance is bliss."

[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago

No it hasn't. Many religions and spiritual texts covered all this stuff in just a couple of pages.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago

Please do show the spiritual texts which cover general and specific relativity.

[-] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 31 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The Bible says something about the earth and how it is good and the filament of the sky and something. The Bible that is, at least that's what I read on the internet. Many fine people on the internet, the best people, but not me, I haven't said it, but the best people probably. The best people say the earth may be - and I'm not saying it is but they are saying it - they say that the earth may be flat and that doesn't take much text to cover I have heard.

[-] bigfish@reddthat.com 14 points 11 months ago

If you squint a little, the 7 days of creation in Genesis are relativistic-ish. 1 day to separate light from darkness (photons at 1 microsecond after Big Bang), another to create the sky (opaque universe at 370k years), another to form dry land and create life (earth formed, 9.3 billion years, life at ~0.2by later), etc etc. Anyone with a physics degree able to say what fraction of light speed god must have been travelling to make this happen such that only days passed for them between these events?

[-] TurboDiesel@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

Maybe they're days on a logarithmic scale?

[-] flatearth@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

They are literal days.
Our God is King of leading by example.
Also, man was made from the dust of the earth. It was fitting that earth be created before man (also very important for prideful man).
As He did, so we must do.
It is repeated constantly that we have 6 days to work, the 7th to be set apart.
Why?

[-] TurboDiesel@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Rabbinical scholars argue about the correct translation of Genesis to this day. So you saying they're "literal days" is meaningless.

[-] flatearth@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

They are literal days but also have mystical signification.
E.g. The sea (of our earth) can signify worldly people.
Rock can signify Christ.
The sun sometimes can signify Christ.
Stars, candles, salt can signify Christians.
Jerusalem can signify a place.
Babylon can signify a place.
Babylon can signify Antichrist.
All the examples above are different interpretations amongst 4 kinds of interpretation.

  1. Literal (History is found here. Make sure they don't contradict. Make sure they are not exclusive).
  2. Moral (you can derive many).
  3. Mystical (etc.)
  4. Anagogical (etc.)

Before an interpretation is declared to be held universally, theologians can argue.
A new modern rabbi can even say that 7 days is 2 days and we will begin to argue.
Now we have AI image generation. If something about God is difficult for you, you can think of modern inventions.
Theory of evolution by Darwin and others is surely rabbinically modern.
God chose to create man on the 6th day (days are equally marked), and rest on the seventh.
The sun marks the day for us.
The moon marks the season/month.
Stars mark the year.

All these are what helped us arrive at our Gregorian calendar.
If you want me to read your source, please post a link to the rabbinical scholars, because money is capable of damaging a long standing tradition.

[-] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 2 points 11 months ago

I too can spout religious gibberish.

[-] flatearth@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

What triggered you in my post?
Which line?

[-] flatearth@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Rabbinical scholars don't believe many things now:
Then, they believed the prophecy of Daniel and Herod even inquired from them (Herod did not want a rival king, so he ordered all new born infants to be killed. That was why Jesus, Mary and Joseph took refuge in Egypt).
Rabbinical scholars of now don't believe in Jesus Christ, and what do you want God to do to them?
Rabbinical scholars of now don't believe in Jesus Christ, and you expect me to believe rabbinical scholars?

Exodus 31:16,17
Let the children of Israel keep the Sabbath, and celebrate it in their generations. It is an everlasting covenant between me and the children of Israel, and a sign perpetual. For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, and in the seventh he ceased from work.

Genesis 2:7
Our Lord God therefore formed man of the slime of the earth: and breathed into his face the breath of life, & man became a living soul.
[My comment] Not because Adam was difficult to make.

Genesis 2:22
And our Lord God built the rib which he took of Adam into a woman, & brought her to Adam.
[My comment] Wo + man = woman.

[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

Deal if you show me the scientific texts that covered these in 500bc since you think we've always know how complex this is.

[-] xintrik@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago

If your point was that religions have oversimplified complex science to the point that people thought they fully grasped it, then I agree with you. Otherwise I have no idea what you are trying to say.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

I never made that claim, so how can I show you something I never claimed in the first place?

[-] Moops@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago
[-] Sternout@feddit.de 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

No, before the scientific method was invented, the religious consensus was that "All is known".

[-] veroxii@aussie.zone 4 points 11 months ago

"It's all written down in this here book."

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

And Aristotle was worshipped to the point where if people knew from personal experience that something he said was wrong, they'd assume their own experience was what was mistaken. And this despite him not having any connection to their religion at all.

One example is that they used to think that objects could only have one force acting on it at a time. This could be the "natural force", which is what makes objects fall when you drop them, or forces resulting from an action being performed on it. As a result, projectiles would travel straight in the direction they were thrown until the natural force took over, at which point they would fall vertically. Somehow this was still popularly believed (by academics at least) well after the catapult had been invented and used in sieges for centuries. It was believed by people who could throw things and observe how they moved with their own eyes.

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