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submitted 11 months ago by Y2K38@lemmy.one to c/privacyguides@lemmy.one

Nevertheless I chose my Yubikey instead.

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[-] IdleSheep 25 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This isn't really a good idea because then you're putting all your eggs in one basket. The whole point of 2FA is that the second factor is in a separate location so if your first factor (password) gets compromised the second one (OTP code) still protects your account. If both factors are in one place you're back to a single point of failure instead of 2, losing a key benefit of 2FA.

If you're gonna do this, at the very least have 2FA with a security key on your bitwarden vault.

[-] kniescherz@feddit.de 4 points 11 months ago

You lose security, sure. But you are gaining so much more ease of use. Bitwarden autofills your credentials and puts your token into your clipboard. Also it syncs your tokens to all devices. Effectifly this makes a site as easy to login as a site without 2fa.

The alternative is on desktop always get your smartphone, open some app type a token or on the phone to switch to multiple apps to get your credentials. Not fun imho.

I currently activated 2fa on over 60 sites, I doubt I would use it as much without BW.

For me, the key benefit of 2Fa is getting more security against leaked, stolen, phished passwords, and that still holds up.

[-] IdleSheep 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The alternative is on desktop always get your smartphone, open some app type a token or on the phone to switch to multiple apps to get your credentials. Not fun imho.

There are desktop apps for OTP, you don't need a phone. And since you only need to setup an OTP secret once, doing it for your phone and pc isn't that big of a deal.

I have my OTP secrets in 3 places, 2 yubikeys and my phone's authenticator app, with the former meant for my PC.

For me, the key benefit of 2Fa is getting more security against leaked, stolen, phished passwords, and that still holds up.

If your vault doesn't have 2FA too this doesn't hold up though. Means you're trusting a single service that can get hacked with all your secrets. Sure, your other accounts are more protected against leaks and stuff, but if your password vault isn't, you didn't really change much, just pointed the hackers to one single place.

Yes I know hacking a password vault isn't some walk in the park and rarely happens, but the point is any leaks from it would be 10 times more catastrophic for you if all your OTP secrets are also stored in it. I'll spare myself from that nightmare with the small inconvenience that is a separate, offline OTP app.

[-] kniescherz@feddit.de 1 points 11 months ago

Good points!

I got the vault protected via yubikey of course ;)

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