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[Facebook] Messenger is finally getting end-to-end encryption by default - The Verge (www.theverge.com)

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[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

We know they certainly implemented it at one point. So it's not a big ask to do that for Messenger. And like someone said, would probably benefit them too since don't have to give info they don't have. But with it being closed source, it can't be verified if they're using it now.

[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

Do you believe that Meta, if given the opportunity, would choose personal privacy over making money? It’s an easy yes, or no question to answer.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

What money?

[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

Just money. Yes or no.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

I need to know what your question means to answer it. What money are we talking about?

[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I’m not Meta, so I can’t give you a detailed breakdown of how they use the data they collect to make money. So, let’s assume by money I just mean money from their many sources. It’s a pretty easy question with only one answer.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

I’m not Meta, so I can’t give you a detailed breakdown of how they use the data they collect to make money.

But you are talking about what sort of money, something they'd get from not using E2EE?

[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

Something they’d get from being able to read messages.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

I guess it depends how much. If they'll net like a billion from not doing E2EE then yeah absolutely. If it's significantly less they'd might still go with E2EE for the PR and not having to comply with shit. It's not like they'd lose all the metadata anyway.

[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Let me be sure I know what you’re saying. You feel it’s perfectly fine if their encryption is done in such a way that they can read the encrypted information on the server as long as they don’t make a lot of money on it?

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

You are way off. For reference, here's what you asked

Do you believe that Meta, if given the opportunity, would choose personal privacy over making money?

And my answer

I guess it depends how much. If they’ll net like a billion from not doing E2EE then yeah absolutely. If it’s significantly less they’d might still go with E2EE for the PR and not having to comply with shit. It’s not like they’d lose all the metadata anyway.

[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

Ahhh going way back to the start. Got it. Glad we’re on the same page now.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

Well yeah, I just wanted to know first what you were asking before answering

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