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[-] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It's a matter of degree. Comparing the training of a delivery driver or custodian to that of a doctor, engineer, or professor is, frankly, just stupid. This is what is meant by skilled versus unskilled labour.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

No one made such a comparison. Again- any training or education is learning a skill. It doesn't matter if it's 8 years in a university or 8 hours as a dishwasher. There is no job I can think of that doesn't require at least some training or education. Can you?

[-] Blackhole@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 months ago

Jobs with minimal training required are unskilled labor.

Was that so hard to understand?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

"Minimal training" = learning a skill.

It is skilled labor.

[-] Blackhole@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

Fucking breathing is skilled labor by your definition.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

No. Being trained to do something is learning a skill. It's that simple. I'm not sure why that isn't clear to you yet. How many more times do I need to repeat it?

[-] Blackhole@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

Ok fine. We want to be obtuse. Let's separate it into minimally skilled and more skilled.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

That would be more accurate than what is used now. Why are you so hostile against the idea that people with less skill than you still have skill? It seems like snobbery to me.

[-] Blackhole@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

Because yall are being pedantic. You know exactly what unskilled labor refers to. But because you want to be pedantic we have to change words to say the exact same thing. Not for a good reason... just cause. I guess all the minimally skilled people were offended?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Yes, I know what the term refers to the same way I know what the term 'stewardess' means, but we decided that was a sexist term, so now we say 'flight attendant.' Language can change. Language that is obviously classist can definitely change. Changing obviously classist language should be done.

And if you still don't agree, perhaps you could tell me where the dividing line is, specifically, between 'skilled' and 'unskilled.' You seem to believe these have precise definitions, so exactly how much training is required to make one skilled?

[-] Blackhole@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

Lol, ok. Fine, I'll call them low skilled jobs. I'm sure that's so much better, right? It almost sounds worse, but if that's what your want....

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Again, what is your problem with people who have jobs that require less skill than yours? Because the only explanation I can come up with is just snobbery.

[-] Blackhole@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

I have no problem with them at all. What is your problem with having language that provides details about the type of work someone does?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

You could have fooled me.

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