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The U.S. vetoed a UN Security Council resolution Friday calling for a ceasefire to the fighting in Gaza.

The U.S. and Israel have opposed calls for a ceasefire, saying it would strengthen Hamas.

The vote was delayed for several hours over worries the U.S. would veto it. Diplomats from several Arab nations met with U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken to try to convince the U.S. to abstain from voting.

As a permanent member of the council, the U.S. has veto power, and had signaled it planned to block the resolution. The U.K. abstained from the vote, while the 13 other members of the council voted for it.

read more: https://www.semafor.com/article/12/08/2023/un-security-council-votes-on-gaza-ceasefire-resolution-amid-israel-hamas-conflict

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[-] PanArab@lemmy.ml 33 points 2 years ago

Genocide Joe is insatiable.

[-] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 14 points 2 years ago

Trump would be 10x worse, or is that what you had in mind?

[-] 520@kbin.social 38 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Both options would have been collosal twats about this. It's still valid to call the person currently being a twat about it a twat.

[-] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 years ago

Sure, but someone repeating Trump’s insults is also a twat.

[-] PanArab@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 years ago

Did Trump actually say? That's funny considering he'd do the same. I have been saying it since the first US veto back in October, I even thought I came up with it. It is true and has a nice ring to it.

The real question is why is the US run by racist genocidal geriatrics from both parties? Fix your democracy before trying to export it to the Middle East.

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

We are all twats on this cursed day.

At least everyone in America is

[-] PanArab@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago

What's 10x worse than a genocide?

[-] rgb3x3@beehaw.org 9 points 2 years ago
[-] pyr0ball@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

10x genocide?

He would let the Palestinian people die and start wars with other countries to distract the rest of us

[-] PanArab@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago

Biden is already not only letting thousands of Palestinians die but he is sending Israel the weapons to kill them with.

Also Biden is already dragging the US into further wars in my region. If Trump was going to start new wars he would have already done so. People forget that Biden played a role in Bush’s invasion of Iraq and Obama’s drone strikes on hospitals.

[-] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

Genocidecimal.

[-] Armen12@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

Ok, but Joe Biden didn't take out MBS, shakes hands with Dictator Xi, won't actually call for sanctions on countries with dictators and now supports a genocide against Palestinians. How is he any better?

[-] Poggervania@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

Ah yes, I am sure Trump wouldn’t do the same thing as well 🙄

The US will always back Israel because the US sees military strategic value against the Middle East with Israel, namely Iran. It also helps that Israel exports a lot of medical equipment to the US as well, so financially we have a good relationship with them there as well.

[-] xerazal@lemmy.zip 28 points 2 years ago

"trump worse" doesn't mean that this isn't bad. The bar is so fucking low at this point, and even then Dems can't clear it.

[-] PanArab@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The US will always support genocidal maniacs is not a valid argument, and neither is that Trump is as bad.

I genuinely can't understand why you are defending a genocide. This is bad for the US's international standing. It hurts the US-led coalition against Russia. Even if you don't care or humanize Palestinians, you should at least pretend to care about long term US interests at home and abroad.

"Rush by west to back Israel erodes developing countries’ support for Ukraine" https://archive.ph/ctAhD

“We have definitely lost the battle in the Global South,” said one senior G7 diplomat. “All the work we have done with the Global South . [over Ukraine] has been lost . . . Forget about rules, forget about world order. They won’t ever listen to us again.”

Many developing countries have traditionally supported the Palestinian cause, seeing it through the prism of self-determination and a push against the global dominance of the US, Israel’s most important backer.

“What we said about Ukraine has to apply to Gaza. Otherwise we lose all our credibility,” the senior G7 diplomat added. “The Brazilians, the South Africans, the Indonesians: why should they ever believe what we say about human rights?”

[-] Armen12@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago

He's defending genocide because he's grasping at straws trying to pin everything on native peoples for not wanting to have their land stolen

[-] Poggervania@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

Who said I was defending it? What did I say that would imply that?

My post is explaining why this would have happened regardless of who was in charge in response to the honestly stupid “gEnOcIdEr JoE” post. If you ask me, this shouldn’t even be happening in the first place, and I personally don’t advocate for war and/or genocide nor condone such barbaric actions because of the more harmful long-term consequences such things have on people from both sides of the conflict. We should have agreed to the ceasefire, and am disappointed we veto’d it.

[-] PanArab@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 years ago

If the current resident president was Trump, people would have called him Genocide Don and rightfully so. The most shameful thing any president could do is allow a genocide to happen when he has the full power to stop it.

I am glad you agree that the US vetoing the ceasefire multiple times is wrong and makes it complicit in the crimes, not to mention all the bombs and financial aid they are sending to Israel.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 years ago

I love how libs immediately bleat about Trump when presented with the fact that it's their chosen savior doing a genocide. These people have no actual morals.

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