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[-] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 43 points 11 months ago

I don't think it's that big of a mystery. I'm sure it had a lot to do with him trying to turn The Hobbit into a new epic trilogy. It's a pretty short book, it really just needed one film. Also, the first one was terrible to the point that I never bothered watching the other two, and I love LOTR

[-] Kbin_space_program@kbin.social 60 points 11 months ago

The hobbit films being a mess were entirely the fault of new line.

The preproduction of LOTR was in the range of 2 years. That's hammering out the script, but also locations, sets, securing extras, apparently all of the horses in NZ for some of the shots but also all of the costumes and armor.

All of those preproduction things were allowed in the range of 6 weeks(as opposed to over 100) for the Hobbit, and New Line refused to budge at all.

[-] JustAnotherRando@lemmy.world 48 points 11 months ago

That wasn't really on Jackson from what I understand. He originally wasn't even going to be directing the Hobbit films, but had to come in after the original director had other obligations and things were a mess when he got there. I believe the studio had already decided that it would be three films as well, but I could be misremembering.

[-] Avg@lemm.ee 15 points 11 months ago

He could have quit the project though.

[-] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 11 months ago

He could've quit as much as you could've started it.

[-] golli@lemm.ee 16 points 11 months ago

My understanding is that he (at least partially) did it so other people wouldn't be out of their jobs. Some of which he might already know from the LOTR trilogy.

Who knows if the project would have continued without Peter Jackson stepping in.

[-] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 26 points 11 months ago

I’m sure it had a lot to do with him trying to turn The Hobbit into a new epic trilogy.

IIRC: He only wanted to do two movies and that was what was originally announced. Then the studio said,if you want our funding, make three.

So we ended up with the hobbit shitshow.

[-] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 11 months ago

Annnnd, that's why he's not "doing anything" these days.

I genuinely hope he's living his best life. Fuck Hollywood.

[-] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 10 points 11 months ago

I genuinely hope he’s living his best life.

He owns Weta FX which is constantly in demand so I doubt he is short of cash or interesting shit to do.

[-] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

They made a kick-ass tabletop game of corporate-funded mech gladiator battles called Heavy Hitters, btw. Simply out of a shared love for the themes involved. 🤘🏼

[-] resketreke@kbin.social 11 points 11 months ago

I watched all three, and they were all terrible. I've watched the LOTR trilogy a few times, I've only watched The Hobbit trilogy once and I don't think I'm ever watching them again.

[-] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

There are a few fan edits that dump all the padding bullshit and the LOTR foreshadowing. The results is two Ok movies that follow the book quite well, still nowhere near LOTR but not the pile of shit the studio cuts are.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago

We watched the six movies not that long ago and it was the first time my GF watched them and she really enjoyed the Bilbo movies but couldn't wait to be done with LotR...

[-] 6daemonbag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago

Did you show her the extended lotr cuts or the original releases? Extended editions are better for telling closer to the whole story, but the originals are better films.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

Extended and I guess you're right, even for me it felt like the movies didn't age that well

[-] 6daemonbag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago

Yeah the long cuts are for existing fans and are generally not good for first time viewing. I've made the same mistake for nearly two decades before I realized that. And Peter Jackson even says as much!

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